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OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - Printable Version +- BAJR Federation Archaeology (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk) +-- Forum: BAJR Federation Forums (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: The Site Hut (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=7) +--- Thread: OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past (/showthread.php?tid=2313) Pages:
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OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - BAJR Host - 16th September 2009 OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past The wealth of information gathered by local archaeological groups and societies on excavations, surveys and documentary research is one of the important sources of data for the study of archaeology in the UK. Currently, this archive of British archaeology is stored locally, within libraries and local history centres as well as with the originating group themselves. In addition, PhDs and other research can be found in locations often scattered throughout the country. The premise of Open Archive is to collect the records of the past and present and share them with everybody. Open Archive is an accessible library of user generated reports and publications where archaeology societies, PhD research students, graveyard recording and community groups can share their discoveries with a wide audience. The easy to use interface combines intuitive searches by period, type of project and location with a map based view showing the location of the selected documents. Each item can then be viewed as either a short description or as the complete publication. This resource creates a public portal to the records of our shared heritage that were previously only available on a few local archaeology group websites OR as paper copies in the local library. The idea is to allow this to be both interactive and open to sharing via feeds and direct data transfer. The data entry form is modelled exactly on the Discovery and Excavation Scotland (DES) fields, and has the potential to allow direct transfer of this data to the record. (For future projects this would mean every record sent to Open Archive that is located in Scotland could be automatically be sent to the DES along with a copy of the report.) In addition, we are working on automatically sending Treasure Trove reporting, Open Archive is developing for the future and your comments are welcome. Loading the pdf versions of the document onto Open Archive is a quick step by step process, maintaining ease of use without compromising the value of the information gathered. The more users that utilise this secure public archive, the more useful it becomes, building a written record of the past in Britain by those that know it best. Free to register and use, we are currently in consultation to help take paper records and transform them into searchable digital formats, where the rediscovery of these publications may even re-ignite interest in the area. Open Archive is exactly that ? a public resource, created for everyone. You can view the current Version here http://www.openarchive.co.uk and we welcome comment info@digitalpast.co.uk David Connolly and Steve White (Digital Past) OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - BAJR Host - 18th September 2009 Any thoughts peeps? :face-confused: OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - Jean M - 21st September 2009 Excellent idea! One of your very best. Would you like some of my stuff? It's building history, not archaeology. OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - BAJR Host - 21st September 2009 That does it for me... YES PLEASE At the moment locational data can only be a single point however, other general text can be anything. Buildings do it for me too! OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - Jean M - 21st September 2009 OK. May be a while. OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - gilescarey - 22nd September 2009 Great idea David. Certainly use of the Scribd platform is one way forward. The big issue is going to be copyright, i feel. Having worked on an HER website project, we were keen to start putting grey lit online. However, as part of a county council we ran into massive problems over copyright. Even if units/individuals were very happy to grant copyright clearance, many reports still contain OS map extracts which would be a breach of copyright. I am however very supportive of putting stuff out there. I know, for instance, Wessex Archaeology have seen a massive rise in access to and use of their grey lit now it's on Scribd. I will definitely watch the progress of OA with interest...one of the most annoying things about leaving uni was loosing my Athens e-journal access...perhaps this can start to fill the gap! OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - BAJR Host - 22nd September 2009 Thanks Knap, There are definitely a couple of good points in there. (and of course... thanks for the thumbs up) WE are hoping (if we can achieve a funding backer... British Academy perhaps?) to move from the Scribd Platform to our own API - though - we already store a copy of the report as well as it being processed into SCribd. The copyright problem is perhaps the most worrying, and amusingly, we are all now in trouble... however, there are ways round this, and to be honest ... so far the OS have failed to attempt legal action (as far as I am aware) they are perhaps only too aware that this is not a threat - but would be if they started to come down heavy. They are after all a tax payer funded organisation. and are - shall we say... liable to political will. Even the use of OS coords is copyright .. ! can you believe it... I look to America with envy! And like Wessex, BAJR guides and my own company reports have at last been 'seen' and read... in comparison with traditional venues of information - the figures were staggering.. and in terms of Wessex.. amazing! top let people see what I/you mean.. and show just how powerful this is Guidance Historic Building Recording - Guidance for Curators and Commercial Archaeological Contractors 3,343 Reads | 378 Downloads How To Get Involved In Archaeology (BAJR Guide) after 60 days 2,216 Reads | 173 Downloads Short Guide to Digital Photography in Archaeology 7,004 Reads | 1,180 Downloads Survey Basics ? Laying out a Trench and Levelling 6,323 Reads | 517 Downloads etc Now reports for me are quite good, given the obscure nature of my work.. Newhailes Estate Flower Garden Wall ( a heated brick wall) 3,231 Reads | 69 Downloads Water Newton rally 2007 3,482 Reads | 114 Downloads Big Cousland Dig 2008 732 Reads | 30 Downloads (plus 100 paper copies sold) but look at wessex! with over 14,000 subscribers Aircraft Crash Sites at Sea - a Scoping Study project report 24,702 Reads (downloads unknown) Roman Durnovaria - 7 Animal bone 18,769 Reads (downloads unknown) Pottery identification sheet 4,553 Reads | This is no fly by night method of opening up our data... its the future OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - BAJR Host - 2nd October 2009 Open Archive - Britarch Comments david Wrote:The recent announcement of the new 'Open Archive' service for The reply from Digital Past is below OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - BAJR Host - 2nd October 2009 Many thanks for so many bodies coming together to ask these questions. I should be clear about three separate issues 1) This is not a British Archaeological Jobs Resource initiative. 2) There is comment about the "approach adopted in the 'Open Archive' raising concerns" - let us be clear that data standards are crucial, and to this end, the current structure (as remember this is a work in progress, requiring seious input) is based exactly on the DES structure. (if it is good enough for DES, it must be good) - More crucially, there seems to be a misunderstanding concerning the direction. It does NOT and HAS NOT made any claims to replacing or duplicating OASIS - that is a mainly commercial archaeological system. This is dealing with a different audience the local group - and is proactively engaging them. 3) The second issue is about 'archive' - We are aware of the long-term sustainability issue and we are addressing this as we continue to develop. To be specific, we do not view Scribd as the final solution; we are busy designing and developing our own internal systems. In terms of interoperability, we would welcome the adoption of web services and APIs written to defined standards. I sincerely hope that you see the benefit of a system that enhances, expands and increases knowledge, and as you rightly say, "Archaeological archiving works best when it is based on cooperation and collaboration, and the groups and mechanisms to facilitate this are broadly in place." Our request is that you (as a group) allow us to do just that, we are more than willing (indeed it was our hope) that we can cooperate and collaborate with you. On looking at another thread by Mike Heyworth we found the following lines useful and quote them below: Quote:"I do not believe it is divisive to have separate groups representing At Digital Past, we want to enhance our record of the UK's Past, not overlap or duplicate, but bring new opportunities to the 21st century and the concept of sharing data in a way that suits people. This discussion is best continued on a more formal manner - and we look forward to hearing from the interested groups to discuss how best we can move forward. Our contact details are below - so look forward to hearing from you collectively or individually - we are more than happy to talk, to meet and to assure. This is about access to material not previously accessible as a central resource, it is about embracing new technologies and it is about opening archives to all, and yes - sharing. At Digital Past, we are more than happy to share, and welcome collaboration, so look forward to your help and support to ensure that the resulting resource meets a broad need and satisfies the exacting standards we all hold to. Many thanks for your interest and thank you for your questions. http://www.openarchive.co.uk Steve White Digital Past T: 01686 626 962 E: s.white@digitalpast.co.uk David Connolly Digital Past T: 01620 861643 M 0787 6528 498 E d.connolly@digitalpast.co.uk OPEN ARCHIVE ? a new web based system for accessing our past - Jean M - 3rd October 2009 I have added a link to Open Archive from my introductory page on researching historic buildings, in the section at the end where I urge people to share their findings. Copyright is a problem. It is one that a local development body hit when they wanted to put a report of mine online. The problem is not only caused by OS maps, but satellite/aerial shots and some historic images. It is unreasonable to demand vast reproduction fees when a report is being made available free, and particularly when the images in question are long out of copyright. But it may be necessary to remove certain images to spare you problems. |