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Uo1 thread - monitor lizard - 20th August 2009

To some extent that also depends on what you mean by 'publish'. If you are talking a glossy photoed coffee table book then of course not. But if you equate publicaiton with dissemination - ie letting the great unwashed (that would be archaeoogical colleagues:face-stirSmile as well as the wider community know what is found then I think most are published, through inclusion in the local SMR/HER, OASIS forms and archives.

ML


Uo1 thread - RedEarth - 20th August 2009

Quote:quote:Originally posted by monitor lizard

To some extent that also depends on what you mean by 'publish'. If you are talking a glossy photoed coffee table book then of course not. But if you equate publicaiton with dissemination - ie letting the great unwashed (that would be archaeoogical colleagues:face-stirSmile as well as the wider community know what is found then I think most are published, through inclusion in the local SMR/HER, OASIS forms and archives.

ML

Then it's the use of the word published that is unhelpful as I'm sure I'm not alone in considering 'grey literature' reports to be unpublished. I certainly wouldn't consider inclusion on the HER/SMR or OASIS to be published. Perhaps 'disseminated appropriately' would be be a better word. Some pieces of work don't even diserve a report, and indeed some curators/curatorial bodies only ask for a short summary (a page or so) in cases where absolutely nothing is found.


Uo1 thread - tmsarch - 20th August 2009

The wording in the PPG is - "should also provide for the subsequent publication of the results of the excavation". I don't read this as saying that every site [u]will</u> be published, but rather that there should be provision for the publication of the results if needed.

Not every site will warrant publication beyond the grey-literature/client report, however should the results of the investigation warrant it there should be a requirement to publish the results.

The provision for publication can be achieved through legal agreement between the developer, County Archaeologist and the LPA or through of a WSI/brief/specification submitted in response to a planning condition.


Uo1 thread - Unitof1 - 20th August 2009

and bring along side your very good points these meanings of words However, failure to
[u]prepare</u> or publish
and dont ignore the ten years

4.4 A member is responsible for the analysis and publication
of data derived from projects under his/her control. While
The member exercises this responsibility he/she shall
enjoy consequent rights of primacy. However, failure to
prepare or publish the results within [u]10 years</u> of
completion of the fieldwork shall be construed as a
waiver of such rights, unless such failure can reasonably
be attributed to circumstances beyond the member?s
control.
Note:
It is accepted that the movement of archaeologists
from one employment to another raises problems of
responsibility for the publication of projects. This
ultimate responsibility for publication of a piece of
work must be determined either by the contract of
employment through which the work was undertaken,
or by agreement with the original promoter of the
work. It is the responsibility of The member, either as
employer or employee, to establish a satisfactory
agreement on this issue at the outset of work.

4.5 A member, in the event of his/her failure to prepare or
publish the results within [u]10 years</u> of completion of the
fieldwork and in the absence of countervailing
circumstances, or in the event of his/her determining not
to publish the results, shall if requested make data
concerning the project available to other archaeologists
for analysis and [u]publication</u>
.
4.6 A member shall accept the responsibility of informing the
public of the purpose and results of his/her work and
shall accede to reasonable requests for information for
dispersal to the general public.
Note:
The member should be prepared to allow access to sites
at suitable times and under controlled conditions, within
limitations laid down by the funding agency or by the
owners or the tenants of the site, or by considerations of
safety or the well-being of the site.

4.7 A member shall respect contractual obligations in
reporting but shall not enter into a contract which
prohibits The member from including his/her own
interpretations or conclusions in the resulting record, or
from a continuing right to use the data after completion
of the project.

Note:
Adherence to this rule may on occasion appear to clash
with the requirements of rule 1.10. A client employer may
legitimately seek to impose whatever conditions of
confidentiality he/she wishes. A member should not
accept conditions which require the permanent
suppression of archaeological discoveries or
interpretations.



Uo1 thread - Unitof1 - 20th August 2009

Sorry cant resist must add

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Quote:quote:It should be worth registering (to claim back VAT on purchases) if:
? You make zero-rated supplies ? because your customers will not have to pay VAT.



Uo1 thread - Unitof1 - 21st August 2009

What is publication and why should we charge VAT, we are not dead yet.

honestly hosty I dont understand the fed. I will wait for you lot to come back here to reality.


Uo1 thread - RedEarth - 21st August 2009

Quote:quote:Originally posted by Unitof1

at the mo thats what we produce

I think that you'll find that printers and similar produce books and the other things on that list. What you and other archaeologists do is carry out a specialist service, the end result of which is compiled into a report. That's not the same as a printer printing off several thousand copies of the latest Barbara Cartland novel - the printing of the novel is undoubtedly rated 0 for VAT but the publishers costs probably aren't and the author's costs might not be!?