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Have you used the ICE Conditions of Contract? - Unitof1 - 29th June 2009
1man I suspect that where there is risk there is money and I am sorry that you have only dealt with archaeologists who are completely unaware of this due to their lock of contract knowledge.
Would you say that a lot of what you do is about finalising project budgets before site purchase on behalf of the purchaser?
Have you used the ICE Conditions of Contract? - 1man1desk - 29th June 2009
No
1man1desk
to let, fully furnished
Have you used the ICE Conditions of Contract? - Unitof1 - 30th June 2009
good for you, although I thought that you had previously claimed
Quote:quote:Yes, and I frequently have done - clients often investigate land before they buy it, with the agreement of the landowner, which seems only sensible. They are spending tousands to make sure they aren't at risk of wasting millions by buying land they can't develop.
I presumed through CoC
Have you used the ICE Conditions of Contract? - 1man1desk - 30th June 2009
Mr Unit,
I didn't 'claim' anything. You need to be more careful in your use of words - your tone, here and in many of your other posts, implies that you suspect dishonesty or bad motives in other participants.
What I did was to state a fact about one of the types of circumstance in which I might be commissioned by a client to organise archaeological investigations, to which I would apply the CoC.
The comment referred to projects in which we help a client find out whether a piece of land they may want to develop contains archaeological remains. That information may influence their decision on whether to buy the land, or for how much - but that is their decision; I do not help them to 'finalise project budgets before purchase'. After all, I am an archaeologist and an environmental consultant, not a property valuer.
In the same way, the client is likely to commission studies to ensure that the seller really owns the land, that no-one else has rights to it, whether or not it is occupied by protected species or designated as a nature conservation site, whether the land is contaminated, and all sorts of other factors that influence whether or not that particular piece of land is a good investment.
No investigation (archaeological or other) can take place on the land itself without the agreement of the existing owner, who wants to sell and knows he can't unless all of this information is made available.
The process is called 'due diligence', and is very widespread, especially for larger developments. tmsarch drew the parallel with the searches and surveys you would have done on a house before you buy it, and that is a very good analogy.
1man1desk
to let, fully furnished
Have you used the ICE Conditions of Contract? - Unitof1 - 1st July 2009
I apologise, yes I am angry but it is because I suspect a disregard for the caretakers of the archaeology
seller beware, archaeologists about
Have you used the ICE Conditions of Contract? - Unitof1 - 4th July 2009
if we are in the construction industry why are we not allowed in CIS?
or why is it that no archaeological educational instition (like a university) that breeds off undergraduates undertakes a carear placement with any british archaeological company
is cause they are .r..
Have you used the ICE Conditions of Contract? - Unitof1 - 15th July 2009
they arnt singing anymore, they arnt singing....