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encouraging newbies and cynics - mercenary - 7th September 2005
Yep, well said CK. But it takes a special type (emphasis on special) to get something out of this profession, and lets face it some just don't have it. Professional pride in being an [u]Archaeologist </u> is not going to suffice for everyone. A rewarding career almost anywhere else is probably a better bet for those who don't understand the intangible joys of this job. Balanced against the negatives of relatively poor pay and limited career structure my account is still firmly in the black. Those who don't GET IT will drift off, and that's as it should be.
encouraging newbies and cynics - destroyer - 7th September 2005
Quote:quote: Sorry Troll mate, can't even think of what to tell them, still angry after reading what destroyer said on the last post.GRRRRR!
oops what have i done now...
anyway as regards this topic i'm in agreement with mercenary, generally you need a lot of determination and a bit of luck to stay the course. As i'm a rather grumpy cynical bastard i tend to fail on the encouragement front to the workforce, instead telling all the volunteers etc how tough its gonna be for them. If i dont put them off then they'll put up with anything - and those that are left will be seriously keen.
Many's the time i was/am highly disllusioned with the profession and my progress within it - but so far i've stuck it out because at the end of the day i love the job, which has been recognized by my small unit. We do have a small training budget, mainly for H&S, GIS or IT courses but generally keep our archaeogical training inhouse, and those who put the effort in are encouraged to expand their abilities.
Oddly enough i just met a friend of mine from my archaeology degree course who's now doing very well for himself as a Tescos manager.
encouraging newbies and cynics - 1man1desk - 8th September 2005
Well, I had a similar crisis very soon after graduation, and went off to try to be a blacksmith for a year. That didn't go far, and then I went on a dig in Shetland (more for the chance to go to Shetland than any other reaso). It reminded me how much I loved archaeology, so that was me back on track - and I'm still here 20 years later.
As far as I can see, there are good career paths available for archaeologists nowadays, but only for a minority, especially if you want to stay in units for a whole career. It's still pretty ****ty, but much better than it was in the 1980s.
On training, the reality is that for any small business it can be difficult to sustain the loss of staff time and the direct costs. Few small businesses outside archaeology provide much training either. For the larger organisations, there should be no excuse.
1man1desk
encouraging newbies and cynics - Sith - 8th September 2005
I just found the following website and it's very enthusiastic and ecouraging:
http://www.fabjob.com/archaeology.asp
I can't say that I'll be rushing off a cheque to purchase a copy of the "FabJob Guide to Become an Archaeologist".
Sith
[8D]
encouraging newbies and cynics - eggbasket - 8th September 2005
Could be worse; fancy a job as a Tiger Urine Collector?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050908/od_afp/chinaanimalsfoodoffbeat_050908040736
Right, time to give the new boy the meat pants before putting him in the cage to milk the tiger ...
Don't have a stegosaurus, man.
encouraging newbies and cynics - Curator Kid - 8th September 2005
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Sith
I just found the following website and it's very enthusiastic and ecouraging:
I like the idea of "A day in the life of an archaeologist" I bet it doesn't say anything like mine "...got up, went to work, read very bad desk-top assessment, wrote arsey letter to unit about bad desk-top, recommended some conditions on about 20% of the consultations I had to look at, sent the rest back with disinterest, answered 'phone, had a long discussion with a developer about why he "had to pay for this", read a boring consultation paper about planning from the Government, had yet another meeting about the department being reorganised, approved a WSI at the fifth attempt by e-mail, went home, fell asleep in front of the TV, went to bed, couldn't sleep, got up, had some gin, went back to bed."
Are anyone else's days quite this action-packed? What about you consultants?
encouraging newbies and cynics - muddyandcold - 9th September 2005
Tescos! When I first start XX years ago, the alternative profession was accountancy!!
Sign of the times I guess...
encouraging newbies and cynics - eggbasket - 9th September 2005
What do you say to an employed archaeologist?
Big mac and fries, please.
Well, it had to be said ... or maybe not.
Don't have a stegosaurus, man.