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Cheapskate County Mountie - Curator Kid - 13th October 2006
Most jobs are graded according to responsibilities. Since this one is not simply the County Archaeologist, but also the Team Leader and budget holder, it should be more - I suspect Wiltshire haven't gone down the route of having external job grading appraisals yet? Recent similar jobs advertised in the South-East have offered considerably more money than this - and quite rightly so.
A thought: The cynic in me is also suspicious of the amendment to the advert that has appeared since I started this thread. Has the job description been properly amended also, or have they simply ticked the next box down to accomodate the low wages? The idea of grading a job over a " range of responsibilities" seems extremely calculating to me - my own job description carries a "range of responsibilities", from having the requirement to manage, monitor and set briefs for projects and post-excavation work, through to needing to be able to do watching briefs and undertake basic digging. This does not and should not mean that the starting salary should be at BAJR G2 rising to BAJR G6. The grading must fit the ultimate responsibility the job carries - as the County Archaeologist is the focal point for archaeological work within a set area, the job has G7 responsibilities and that's where its wage range should be set. Lowering the starting grade to reflect "a range of responsibilities" sounds like it could be an excuse to get around the BAJR payscales to me. [xx(]
Cheapskate County Mountie - Curator Kid - 16th October 2006
And again - I notice the new GGAT job is also graded as G6-G7. I can't see anything in the job description to warrant the G6 rating, apart from the wages... :face-huh:
Cheapskate County Mountie - vulpes - 18th October 2006
Have to agree with much of the above. Especially CK's recent comments. Hate to say it but I think BAJR is letting the side down on this one (and the the GGAT job) a bit. This is clearly a G7 job and as such perhaps this ad should not have been taken - I thought BAJR was here to take a stand on this issue. And that should mean more than just blocking uinfair wages at the lower end of the scale.:face-confused:
Cheapskate County Mountie - drpeterwardle - 19th October 2006
The grades are as follows:
::Level 6: ie PROJECT MANAGER / SPECIALIST 2 :: £20,895 -£27,492 (min £401.82 per week)
Expected to be an experienced and proficient practitioner in chosen field with ability to make independent decisions, run several projects simultaneously, deal with budgets and leading teams through projects to completion.
::Level 7: ie Unit DIRECTOR / PROFESSOR / HIGH LEVEL SPECIALIST :: min. £28,221 + (but reasonable to expect min £34,986+)
Top of the ladder. Responsibilities for entire Units, Departments, Organisations. Must be able to cary out all aspects of chosen field, lead with confidence and have a standing within Heritage Community. This is a long term commitment. ::
In the case of the GGAT job - the head of their contracting section is a grade 6 job with a grade 7 salary which reflects the fact it is more than a project managers job.
The BAJR The weekly rate is based on a calculation based on 37.5 hours work per 5 day week with no holiday pay entitlement, pension rights or sickness leave entitlement. The GGAT has lots of holiday and a good pension package so I would say it is not a bad salary as they go in archaeology.
Peter
Cheapskate County Mountie - Curator Kid - 20th October 2006
So do GGAT have more than one "Principal" Archaeological Officer then? Or is this person responsible for all of the contracting department? Isn't that "Top of the ladder, responsibilities for entire units, [u]departments</u>, organisations, must be able to carry out all aspects of chosen field, lead with confidence and have a high standing within the Heritage Community"?
Even if you're right about the GGAT post Dr. Pete, how does the level 6 description apply to the County Archaeologist job in Wiltshire?
Cheapskate County Mountie - tom wilson - 20th October 2006
I would think that refers to university departments, not subsections of a contracting organisation CK (may I call you CK?).
All the same, what about Wiltshire?
'Have a good plan, execute it violently, do it today'.
General MacArthur
Cheapskate County Mountie - drpeterwardle - 20th October 2006
As I understand it GGAT have a Unit director grade 7, somebody in charge of contracting and some in charge of development control. I understand department in the description to mean university department not a department within a unit.
GGAT web site say they have done a 1000 projects since they were formed in 1975 that is 32 a year. These days that is not that many.
I think there is room for improvement in the grades and there are some ambiguities for example at the higher end if pensions and holiday are taken into account.
There is also a difficulties when pay scales are used depending on age and experience which mean that that the person is likely be appointed somewhere other then the bottom of the scale.
Peter Wardle
Cheapskate County Mountie - deepdigger - 23rd October 2006
GGAT may well have done more than a thousand projects since 1975, I wonder if they mean thats how many they have finished including publication!
deep
Cheapskate County Mountie - 1man1desk - 24th October 2006
Posted by Curator Kid:
Quote:quote:So do GGAT have more than one "Principal" Archaeological Officer then?
As I understand it, the use of the word 'Principal' in a job title usually relates to job grading across a whole organisation, and need not mean that the person concerned is the top of any particular pyramid. For instance, in my organisation, we have 3 'Principal Archaeologists', none of whom is the most senior archaeologist in the organisation.
1man1desk
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Cheapskate County Mountie - Sparky - 24th October 2006
1man,
Do you have a problem with organisation?
S