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Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - Printable Version +- BAJR Federation Archaeology (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk) +-- Forum: BAJR Federation Forums (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: The Site Hut (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=7) +--- Thread: Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail (/showthread.php?tid=3791) |
Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - moreno - 13th March 2011 Had a read of the story, my initial feeling is it seems a bit distorting (intentional, unintentional or otherwise), then had a read of the comments, some which I found amusing. Obviously I'm not privy to the ins and outs of the story, but I was concerned about how archaeology and archaeologists were portrayed in the story. Obviously the archaeological company is abiding by client confidentiality, if comment was forthcoming, perhaps the story may have been reported with a bit more balance. Interesting. Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - BAJR - 13th March 2011 Am going to wait until Monday to verify everything... and then of course it is "to a certain degree" up to the company named, to decide whether to pursue it, or whether it is better left to wither. So far there has been little chatter on the websites and a small amount on Facebook. PErhaps drawing more attention to the false story, would be counter productive. Put it this way, gonetopots version has been coroborated by another. and it fits well with what the images and story seem to 'misleadingly' not show. ie The photographs, the type of covering, the local residents perhaps having ulterior motives etc. THe developer will be more furious, as this makes his development look bad, but in reality, it is those that used 'archaeology' as the excuse, that should be shamed. The number of times I have seen communities suddenly get intersted in archaeology when it could be used to stymie a development. Tshk! Care about it when it is not threatened, and you will have a stronger case. Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - moreno - 13th March 2011 Yep, it's a tough call. I appreciate the need for certainty and the relevance of accuracy. Disingenuous and defaming sort of sprung to mind. Your experience with communities, their interest in archaeology and motive is something I'm familiar with. This "story" will be well represented yet again when the proposed development in South Oxfordshire start to impinge on the small rural village communities. Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - archaeologicalbaldy - 13th March 2011 Interesting story. The DM is not renowned for its facts. However, the pictures are pretty damaging. The trees that Mr DC states are in leaf are conifers and as such will be in leaf all year round AND green!! The basic rules of evaluations (and Home office rules) state that if 'human remains are identified they should be recorded and back filled ASAP'. Just covering them with harris fencing and tarp (not secured by anything) is NOT adequate!!! If some one was to gain access to the site, and ran across the harris fencing , which broke, the arch company would be liable for any broken bones!!! I am surprised that david adevocates this policy of site welfare!!! (has he insurance??????) BAJR Wrote:I decided to look at the story and the images with an archaeologists eye... it was then that several inconsistencies appeared, and also another story emerged, one that is more plausible. Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - BAJR - 13th March 2011 Interesting... Quote: The trees that Mr DC states are in leafWhat I actually say is Quote:Then note the leaves... if this was done in December and open for 2 months, then how did these leaves get in?ie, if you look in the grave, you will see what looks like oak leaves. Quote: Just covering them with harris fencing and tarp (not secured by anything) is NOT adequate!!!Again... baffled... what I say explicitly is this Quote: The herris Fence and tarp over the grave is just eh sort of thing I would do during excavation ( if it went over a couple of days ) planks as well I used on a horse burial last November.The site is secure, the area secured and the burials covered. If you run over a blue plastic tarp on herris fencing... hmmmm far fetched in the extreme, you can also see where they have been secured, but the covers are now removed. Oh and rather than a shock discovery, the intention was to investigate the extent and preservation of the cemetery. (so it seems) I am surprised that you are surprised... and I have to confess I don't now you at all, but you seem to know me by name. How fascinating. Care to expand on who you really are :face-huh: Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - moreno - 13th March 2011 There's a tad bit more on this: http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/news/melton_developers_fill_in_graves_left_uncovered_at_st_audry_s_site_1_826733 Obviously there is more than one side to a story, preferably better to withold opinion, judgement etc. until all the info is in. Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - BAJR - 13th March 2011 By the Way, it is not the Home Office rules.. it is Ministry of Justice now. and has been for some time. As to your supposed quote... "'human remains are identified they should be recorded and back filled ASAP'" That's a new one - Please read this Statement on burial law and archaeology (PDF 0.04mb 2 pages) Also this A Basic Overview of the Recovery of Human Remains from Sites Under Development updated 2007 Quote:It is a general recommendation that human remains are not removed if discovered Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - BAJR - 13th March 2011 I did like the comment about asking people to come forward who know anything about teh burials that people knew nothing about :face-approve: Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - archaeologicalbaldy - 13th March 2011 BAJR EDIT Edited, due to finding out exactly who this is... all we will say it is not Jean Fallows. Ain't that right! LOL! By apart from your other dodgy allegations... the one I don't mind responding to is your comment about being "ejected from the IFA (sic) " I think you will find that I left You may find it harder to sign in, but am sure you will return again, like you often do with your bile and sad little tricks. I really don't care... funny little boy... ! Look forward to your next attack? Britarch perhaps? or what about on a comparison site? I am sure it will keep you busy along with your tiny minded fweinds. Anyway... back to grown up talk. Exposed Skeleton story in Daily Mail - GPStone - 13th March 2011 .........errrr........have I missed something?!?! :face-thinks: :face-huh: |