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BAJR Federation Archaeology
Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - Printable Version

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Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - Wax - 21st July 2014

How do you regulate those jobs advertised on Twitter, Facebook and company web pages ?


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - Dinosaur - 22nd July 2014

P Prentice Wrote:i still think bajr should consider setting up an archaeological employment agency. you might not get the fully employed but should be able to get most of the short contract labour currently doing the rounds - especially those coming from europe. you could set the standard for wages, terms and training etc.
there is nobody i trust more and i would certainly use the service

Hope you're not suggesting an 'agency'! Judging by the construction industry that just results in guys on minimum wage working alongside people on double the cash, and lots and lots of bad atmosphere....


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - kevin wooldridge - 22nd July 2014

Aside from the legal regulations that govern employment agencies , BAJR would have to consider how to engage staff, almost certainly based upon a test of qualification and experience. He might also have to apportion prospective job seekers into categories or grades based upon those qualifications and experience, so as to maximise their earning potential. He could also come up with a snappy title for the agency that demonstrates how advanced his agency is over any other...maybe something like 'In Front Archaeologists'... .he'd have to be careful though in case the agency was ever reduced to just its initial letters ... just pondering on a sunny day!


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - P Prentice - 22nd July 2014

kevin wooldridge Wrote:.....engage staff, almost certainly based upon a test of qualification and experience. He might also have to apportion prospective job seekers into categories or grades based upon those qualifications and experience, so as to maximise their earning potential.
and if we all joined, all employers would have to pay the bajr rate or risk having no staff at all


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - P Prentice - 22nd July 2014

Dinosaur Wrote:Hope you're not suggesting an 'agency'! Judging by the construction industry that just results in guys on minimum wage working alongside people on double the cash, and lots and lots of bad atmosphere....
then the guys on minimum wage should join the agency or go work for a decent employer


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - ken_whittaker - 22nd July 2014

I assume we now ignore the jobs evaluation benchmarking exercise in 2007/8 and the IfA resolution to address the fact that pay at the lowest grade lagged 13% behind its nearest comparator in other professions. Looks like this is to be swept under the carpet, IfA/FAME/Propsect re-positioning to ensure no organisation/institutional responsibility and a normalising of employment conditions structured on low pay. Further consolidation of a marginalised 'profession'......


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - Jack - 22nd July 2014

kevin wooldridge Wrote:.....He could also come up with a snappy title for the agency .........

How about 'The Company'


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - Jack - 22nd July 2014

P Prentice Wrote:and if we all joined, all employers would have to pay the bajr rate or risk having no staff at all

Spot on!

But would have to find a way of getting around the fact that a contractor can just then employ a load of volunteers or trainees or indeed non-archaeologists and/or non-company archaeologists to fill the positions at their preferred low wages.


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - Dinosaur - 22nd July 2014

P Prentice Wrote:then the guys on minimum wage should join the agency or go work for a decent employer

The guys on low wage did join the agency. The workforces on these big infrastructure jobs are padded out with cheap agency labour, even foremen and the like being paid s**t, don't be fooled by the fact that they're issued with PPE bearing the main contractor's logo, they aint on main-contractor contracts or getting paid main-contractor wages! The big construction firms only have limited full-time workforces, they get the rest from a down-trodden shared pool


Jobs in British Archaeology 2013-14 - P Prentice - 22nd July 2014

Dinosaur Wrote:The guys on low wage did join the agency. The workforces on these big infrastructure jobs are padded out with cheap agency labour, even foremen and the like being paid s**t, don't be fooled by the fact that they're issued with PPE bearing the main contractor's logo, they aint on main-contractor contracts or getting paid main-contractor wages! The big construction firms only have limited full-time workforces, they get the rest from a down-trodden shared pool
but a bajr pool isnt a bear pit