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what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - Dinosaur - 9th June 2011
gwyl Wrote:single ovoid ring which started life as an arc of posts.
what are your smithing sites like? any structure remaining or is it all just a load of slag and hammerscale? i had an anvil-setting, hearth, bosh and traces of walls; antecedant just had walls, floor and slags. manor was originally cathedral-holding used to support scholarsinterestingly enough Alsted was also Canterbury holding
c'mon show us your'n
Mine's busy being an old fashioned dartboard when they just had the doubles, although some T**T at some point in the past couple hundred years has taken out the bull with a ditched hedgeline - prob 10 inner ring, 20 outer, and looks like being properly circular for once, these guys may actually have owned a bit of string! - one side not been machined yet so only got 80% at moment. Makes a change from the cursus :face-approve:
When I say 'I', am effectively ghost-writing two of the sites with the ironworking stuff (although I worked on parts of both) - those two are both immediately extra-mural suburban sites (classic location for med town-related smithing), one of which seems to have been a semi-agricultural/semi-industrial set-up (no indication of 24/7 occupation), with area of flues, stakeholes and lots of hammerscale/slag/ash etc. Sadly none of the classic indicators as in Astill 1993. Other site I'm still getting head around site record, but buildings and there may be a raised forge structure, and will have to spend some time looking at some of the mystery pits and postholes. The third site is a load of cut med features (conveniently sealed under a ?13thC road surface) stuffed full of slag and a quite ridiculous amount of hammerscale, either in or immediately outside the boundary of, an abbey - mind you I've had counts of 500+/l from an early bronze-age cremation deposit which had been under a borrow in a field in the middle of nowhere, so that doesn't neccessarily prove anything! .....those damn worms....grrrr
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - monty - 9th June 2011
Now then ............. this ere P Prentice ...........why do you bother doing ANY archaeology with this idiotic mindset...............it's ALL archaeology whatever the period and ALL
important !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - monty - 9th June 2011
P Prentice Wrote:see - the best bit of med and post med arch is that you can read about it to see if its true. utterly pointless. and who needs all those pesky finds and material remains to clutter up our beautiful models and our grandiloquent histories?What a load of B@&***KS !!!
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - gwyl - 9th June 2011
Dinosaur Wrote:, these guys may actually have owned a bit of string!oooooooh that's quaite posh, then
mine looks like it was knocked up by eye, after a good sesh
the preceding arc is an interesting variant on these things
i can send you pics of my enclosure if you're interested;i'd certainly be interested in another LBA timber post enclosure
(i can find the ref but Tim Allen of OAU dug such at Abingdon... it may well be on the human journey website...)
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - P Prentice - 10th June 2011
monty Wrote:Now then ............. this ere P Prentice ...........why do you bother doing ANY archaeology with this idiotic mindset...............it's ALL archaeology whatever the period and ALL
important !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no it isnt - whatever the period ....and i think you will find the distinction will be all the more evident in NPP land
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - Sith - 10th June 2011
P Prentice Wrote:no it isnt - whatever the period ....and i think you will find the distinction will be all the more evident in NPP land
Yes, no and also maybe. We'll see, but there are for instance, a lot of members of the big society for whom the 'archaeology' of WWII is very important and therefore worthy of protection or at least a cursory record.
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - P Prentice - 10th June 2011
Sith Wrote:Yes, no and also maybe. We'll see, but there are for instance, a lot of members of the big society for whom the 'archaeology' of WWII is very important and therefore worthy of protection or at least a cursory record.
quite right and rightly so but it wont include everything built or buried between 1939 and 1945 - there will be a distinction
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - Dinosaur - 11th June 2011
gwyl Wrote:i'd certainly be interested in another LBA timber post enclosure
(i can find the ref but Tim Allen of OAU dug such at Abingdon... it may well be on the human journey website...)
Assume you've read Gibson 2005, good starting point but rapidly becoming badly out of date since the things seem to be breeding.....had been hoping some of the possible pits inside mine were going to produce oodles of Grooved Ware and the like, but I'll settle for LBA - at least they cleaned up after themselves when they finished and burnt the thing down so plenty of charcoal :face-approve:
Should I have been recording all the WWII stuff before machining it off to get down to the medieval R&F on top of all the prehistoric stuff?...oops! :face-stir:
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - gwyl - 13th June 2011
Dinosaur Wrote:Should I have been recording all the WWII stuff before machining it off to get down to the medieval R&F on top of all the prehistoric stuff?...oops! :face-stir:too much focus on the underburden, i think you'll find...
what is the point of doing medieval archaeology anyway? - Dinosaur - 13th June 2011
Cabling and drains get boring after a bit! The standing buildings got recorded though