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Honour amongst thieves - P Prentice - 2nd October 2014
not many solicitors seach for known heritage assets let alone unknown ones. i have quite a few clients who pay me to advise on the likelyhood that mounties will require work on a given opiece of land. they are buyers not sellers. i have even sold the same advice to different clients if it is pre-planning it is intelectual property which as we all know is always for sale.
i generally charge £1200 - £1500. if i was a chartered archaeologist i would probably double it.
Honour amongst thieves - Marc Berger - 2nd October 2014
Cant find you in the book. how did you work out what to charge?
Honour amongst thieves - Sith - 3rd October 2014
The Book? Is this some sort of super secret closed shop directory thing?
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Honour amongst thieves - P Prentice - 3rd October 2014
Marc Berger Wrote:Cant find you in the book. how did you work out what to charge?
i wont get out of bed for less than 1k. there are no planning related jobs worth less than this. i am charging for my education my experience, my skill and my knowledge. i am worth it
Honour amongst thieves - Ken Denham - 9th October 2014
I don't really care whether the developer likes what I say. You are being employed as an impartial and professional assessor of what the situation may be, that's all that counts.
Honour amongst thieves - Marc Berger - 9th October 2014
Hello Ken, what benefits do you think that the clients get from the advice particularly if they don't win the bid?
Honour amongst thieves - Jack - 9th October 2014
Have to say, I don't really understand what the issue or what Marc's advice was for in this case?
Is it:
Aa bunch of people were bidding (in secret) to buy some land.
Marc said to his client you need to add x.
The others didn't add x.
Marc's client hence bidded higher than the others and didn't get the land.
If so I have two questions.
1) Marc why on earth were you advising someone on what to bid to buy land?
2) Why on earth was your client consulting with an archaeologist on how much to bid to buy land, wouldn't a land agent be more appropriate?
Honour amongst thieves - Marc Berger - 9th October 2014
Jack the client wanted me to estimate how much the archaeology might cost. I walked around a bit of land with both the seller and my client and basically talked out loud having told the client that this was a good idea. I made up several scenarios about what could happen but started with that I would be able to give a much better idea if I did an evaluation. I went away charged the client £75 for my time. Then a little while later the client told me that they had not won the bid and basically they didn't think that the other bidders had "worried" about the archaeology or that the seller had not mentioned it to the other bidders. I have as yet to see any planning applications for this site, I don't know who bought it. My interest is that in the past I have been used to imagine costs and they have been used as a maximum claw back from the seller. This is what I told my client. My clients point is that the seller does not have to disclose my wittering's to the other bidders particularly if they did not ask. I would like the fact that my witterings to not be disclosed to the other bidders to be considered as non-disclosure and that any buyer should be seeking warranties and indemnities such as is suggested practise as outlined by this type of body http://www.out-law.com/en/topics/corporate/ma/warranties-indemnities-and-disclosure-in-business-and-company-sales/
Honour amongst thieves - Jack - 10th October 2014
That link is for advice for buying and selling companies.
Here is a forum answer
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A9mSs2Vh1zdUSA8AC01LBQx.?qid=20120719112038AAEwZCB
But buyer beware, planning consent depends on an architects plan of what will be built.
Honour amongst thieves - Marc Berger - 10th October 2014
Jack buyer beware does not really exist, where is it enshrined in an Act of Parliament or EU treaty. Seems to me that most trading laws are to protect the customer from being misled by the seller with a lot of onus on the seller having to define what they are selling. Yes buyers get searches done by solicitors. Seems to me now that planning authorities are trying to make HERs compulsory, that any information or consideration about the archaeology of the site is a potential liability and everybody SELLING land and particularly that which is intended for development should consider the cost of archaeology particularly if they have had more time on that land and should therefore be more informed than the buyer.
http://www.search4solicitors.com/article.php?ArticleID=18