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Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - BAJR - 5th August 2013
With a nice Chianti
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - Unitof1 - 6th August 2013
Maybe the answer is that we have to sell archaeology as entertainment not as some give away volunteer come and use archaeologists to have some fun. Eh national trust make them pay why are we supposed to be part of the British museum it's knowledge and should be free to all argument.
This is what the Pakistani public want: http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-4-194361-History-under-lock-and-key
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - P Prentice - 6th August 2013
Unitof1 Wrote:Maybe the answer is that we have to sell archaeology as entertainmentshe's right
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - HilaryO - 18th September 2013
Quote: what business is it of somebody from ucl. Maybe we should be taking the mickle out of some pathetic post doc subject. From what I can ascertain this person got into archaeology by doing one of those MAs after some undergraduate
PhD funded through employment (British Museum and UCL)MA, Public Archaeology, UCL, 2006
Cert Ed (QTS), University of Plymouth, 2003
BA, Fine Art (Printmaking), Loughborough College of Art, 1989
what does that tool think of this persons digging skills?
I’ve arrived a bit late to this thread, which is a pity. Going back to unitof1’s first thread
What business is it of somebody from UCL?
UCL has one of the largest departments of archaeology in the UK and runs a contracts division (Archaeology South East) currently employing over 50 archaeologists. Guess that makes it UCL’s business.
Maybe we should be taking the mickle out of some pathetic post doc subject.
Must be easy to throw stones when you're hiding behind a fake name, Chivalric Lord. You’re encouraging others to join in a mob attack on someone on an Internet forum. However, it seemed to backfire on you, so I’ll let that one go.
From what I can ascertain this person got into archaeology by doing one of those MAs after some undergraduate
PhD funded through employment (British Museum and UCL)MA, Public Archaeology, UCL, 2006
Cert Ed (QTS), University of Plymouth, 2003
BA, Fine Art (Printmaking), Loughborough College of Art, 1989
I know which webpage you got this from. There’s plenty more information on me out there though. I'll come back to this in a minute.
What does that tool think of this persons digging skills? Not sure if you’re calling me ‘a tool’ here, or asking another user called ‘Tool’ to comment.
One thing you missed when you carried out your research on me was my email address, which you could have found on Google and is at the end of the slideshare (inviting people to get in touch). If you had contacted me for further information about my background I would have told you this:
Yes, my first degree was in Fine Art (graduated 1989). I started working on excavations (local society digs) in 1995 in the Midlands. By 2000 I was teaching archaeology in Cornwall (adult and further ed.) and working on commercial projects (as a Site Assistant, 2004-5). 2005-6 in London doing MA, followed by PhD. My PhD was unfunded so I funded it myself through employment (over 6 years) at the British Museum. Following my PhD I put together a research proposal to undertake research on public engagement in commercial archaeology and approached UCL Advances (Dept Business & Enterprise). The project was supported by Archaeology South-East (remember the 50 odd commercial archaeologists at UCL). Since the project finished (at the end of June) I’ve been employed by ASE (as a Senior Archaeologist) to continue some of the initiatives that I started on behalf of the company, to work on projects which have community outreach elements, and to prepare a HLF bid for a community archaeology project which we hope will in 2014. I’m currently also working on various other research projects for UCL.
Last time I was in a trench on a commercial site - August 2013. I do own a trowel and I know what to do with it.
You queried in another post whether the 70+ % of people that completed my survey actually did work for private companies. You said you didn’t believe this, and you suggested that I might not know the difference between different types of commercial operations. The respondents self-defined from a selection of available categories (private, authority, charity etc etc) when they completed the survey.
Unitof1, if you'd like any more information about my research activities feel free to email me - same goes for everyone else on BAJR.
Hilary
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - BAJR - 18th September 2013
Welcome to the Unitof! appreciation society. mostly it always backfires - as his own universe is slightly shifted from reality.
Nice post. which perhaps will put some emphasis back onto the original post. and the results. actually - going back, I forgot how annoyed I was at Units posts.
Now here is the slideshare again: http://www.academia.edu/4128957/Public_Engagement_in_Commercial_Archaeology._UK_Survey_2013
Quote:I do own a trowel and I know what to do with it.I can guess what you are thinking :face-huh:
( ps.. Tool is the person - or I would have removed it... )
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - BAJR - 18th September 2013
ps... you will have to read the document first... and if you go to page 36 then all the contact details are there...
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - Unitof1 - 18th September 2013
Hello Hilary beware that I can show you ample evidence that no mob has ever followed me anywhere and that at the slightest sign of mob attachment is normally turned into me being banned for a year or two from this site. In fact many jumped to the assistance of your situation. Yes I do hide behind fake name and although you say you are sir Hilary it is best that this being the internet that I should maintain some scepticism. Any way I like your spunk and will away for now to consider your feelings. But be warned hosty will probably edit most of my considerations for your enjoyment and my liking of ucl field unit is minimal, my respect for ucl about the same. Just out of interest care to name any so called commercial companies?
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - HilaryO - 18th September 2013
Hi Unitf1, it really is me. You asked me about names of commercial companies. Do you mean, can I name the companies which contributed to the survey? Not completely sure what you're asking. If that's what you're wondering, no I didn't collect that information out of respect for companies / employees (I probably wouldn't have had many responses if I'd tried). So it's what you see on the slideshare: job titles, type of company, and geographical region of operations. Hope that explains.
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - BAJR - 18th September 2013
Touche... and I am being very gentle with you Unit. it is only when you place me in embarrassing situations that I get serious.
So read the info on the slideshare and remember... if you don't like the public. don't talk to them... it may be for the best
Challenges in conducting public engagement in commercial archaeology in the UK. - Unitof1 - 18th September 2013
yes hosty so that's what gental feels like.
Hi Its really you Hilary, afraid to say I am not myself today and have every erg to make myself totally ununderstandable, to my mind we are supposed to produce a free record for the engagement of the publics. What more do could you want?
Quote:no I didn't collect that information out of respect for companies / employees (I probably wouldn't have had many responses if I'd tried.so you couldn't ask the questions that you wanted to, sound like any response will do.