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Double Standards - BAJR - 24th August 2010
thats it in a nutshell... unless you can show you are innocently looking for services.... you have detector... a spade and a handful of artefacts... looks like intent to me. even without this comment on the forum.... what other purpose would you have for detecting in a channel.... er.. i was looking for my keys yer honour.... it ain't gonna work. though i am sure the french will not notice . don't do it.
Double Standards - Stephen Jack - 24th August 2010
Perhaps you should send an email to this guy?
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/son-metier-chercheur-d-or-a-domicile-6043206.html
Double Standards - Adam - 29th August 2010
Stephen Jack Wrote:Italy, where did I write Italy? please can you post that text. If you had written England and France then you would have been correct.
Where did I say I would be breaking any law, I said I would be calling in the press to highlight the law is a complete shambles.
Using a metal detector in France is not illegal, there are restrictions on where and how they can be used. The understanding of the law I have is based on a legal interpretation carried out by the law college in Nante and not the skewed interpretation of a DRAC representative.
Jack:
The OS stuff is about the analysis of data.
Your question; not very original, I think you can do better if you try to see things in a positive light.
Stephen Jack Wrote:France is not a signatory. Try again
http://portal.unesco.org/la/convention.asp?KO=13520&language=E&o
Stephen Jack Wrote:BARJ
listen very carefully I will type this only once. Detecting is not illegal in France. There are classes of objects where you need authorization to search for them. Be under no illusion this authorization is not a license but a barrier its only issued to archaeologists.
Stephen Jack Wrote:Perhaps you should send an email to this guy?
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/son-metier-chercheur-d-or-a-domicile-6043206.html
Jeez. You leave the forums for a couple of months, and what do you find when you come back eh?
Stephen Jack, to quote the linguistical luminary that is Gene Hunt, you are in our manor and our domain, so stop with the passive-aggression and the, quite frankly, disgraceful attitude. Having read this entire debacle, it seems clear that you consider yourself above discussing this with us plebs, to which I simply invite you to just hop over the Channel, get to it, and send us a postcard from La Bastille when you consider yourself willing to actively participate in an intelligent exchange of ideas.
Find us a source for the legislation you're citing and we'll talk. And no, videos from TV-un don't count.
Double Standards - Stephen Jack - 3rd September 2010
Adam Wrote:Jeez. You leave the forums for a couple of months, and what do you find when you come back eh?
Stephen Jack, to quote the linguistical luminary that is Gene Hunt, you are in our manor and our domain, so stop with the passive-aggression and the, quite frankly, disgraceful attitude. Having read this entire debacle, it seems clear that you consider yourself above discussing this with us plebs, to which I simply invite you to just hop over the Channel, get to it, and send us a postcard from La Bastille when you consider yourself willing to actively participate in an intelligent exchange of ideas.
Find us a source for the legislation you're citing and we'll talk. And no, videos from TV-un don't count.
Its great to see archaeologists living up to their stereo type, don't let the facts get in the way of your rutted opinions and theories. Its ilegal, its illegal I hear, but not one person has referenced the legislation that covers beaches in France or how this legislation is implemented. I could give you links to it, but you are archaeologists. No one expects you to know it straight off, but you should know where to look. So no, find the legislation yourself.
Double Standards - BAJR - 3rd September 2010
Its great to see detectorists living up to their stereo type, don't let the facts get in the way of your rutted opinions and theories.
If you do have any information on the legislation then you could do us favour and show us up...
Double Standards - Dirty Boy - 3rd September 2010
Stephen Jack Wrote:but you should know where to look. So no, find the legislation yourself.
France?
Sorry don't quite have the ferry fare or in fact the ability to read or speak French. Apart from two very useful phrases:
Je voudrais un couchion lait si'l vous plait - can I have a suckling pig please And:
Est ce Montpellier un bon system de recylage? - does Montpellier have a recycling system?
Not guaranteed to help me in most situations. Althought the second phrase I've found is the best chat up line ever in France. Also, coincidentally, I did live with a house mate who originated from Montpellier, and she confirmed that they in fact had an excellent recycling system.
And to be fair, digging a big hole in the beach should be fine - it confuses the French. I did an excavation there and we decided to go to the beach with the site bucket and spades, and as all good British people do, dig THE BIGGEST HOLE POSSIBLE IN THE SAND! The French lifeguard was confused and ran away a bit scared, as we tried to explain that this is perfectly natural behaviour and totally expected in Britain. He just didn't seem to understand.
Anyway, I hope you do dig a big hole on a French beach, and likely find unexploded ordinance. Good luck!
Double Standards - Stephen Jack - 12th September 2010
Loi n?89-874 du 1er d?cembre 1989 relative aux biens culturels maritimes et modifiant la loi du 27 septembre 1941 portant r?glementation de fouilles arch?ologiques
http://www.archeodroit.net/Textes/Terrain/011289.html
L'ARCHEOLOGIE SUR L'ESTRAN
http://www.droit.univ-nantes.fr/labos/cdmo/centre-droit-maritime-oceanique/cdmo/neptunus/nept/nep10/nep10_1.pdf
The important part of this text is towards the bottom, the difference between the written loi and implementation.
Double Standards - vulpes - 12th September 2010
thought this person had been banned?!
Double Standards - BAJR - 12th September 2010
I am a reasonable person.. (see Unit of 1 for example.
) there is no further chance though.
Double Standards - Stephen Jack - 12th September 2010
vulpes Wrote:thought this person had been banned?!
If this was a poll for the profession I work in, I would want poor practise exposed, its shameful.
http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=40