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Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Marc Berger - 4th June 2015
Quote:There's still some unprofessional / cowboy units out there and some ''consultants'' / county mounties cut from the same cloth.but these people don't dig. Their standards are nothing to do with digging. The only time I come into contact with these cowboys is when I am trying to win a contract and most contracts come to me. When the mounties try to stop me working it has nothing to do with my ability to dig. I don't expect them to be able to stop me digging and I don't expect that they should be able to stop anybody else digging no matter how bad their reputation. The ethos is this. Archaeology is disappearing before our eyes at a faster rate than anybody can manage, coastal erosion, ploughing, agrichemicals, people landscaping, permitted developments as well as permitted. If any body gets a look at anything we should be grateful. If you think though that you can pin a pension on it, well look out because its gets bloody nasty.
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Dinosaur - 4th June 2015
There's 'monitoring' going on on a job around here where there's known archaeology considered to be of national importance being destroyed, but no recording whatsoever seems to be occurring, and apparently that's all fine...
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Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Marc Berger - 5th June 2015
why don't you go and do it?
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - BAJR - 5th June 2015
Hate to say it... but Marc is nearly right - you can either feel powerless or help me let me know about it. via pm. As much info as possible would be useful
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Dinosaur - 5th June 2015
Decisions are occasionally made high enough up the governmental food chain to circumvent 'normal' ways of doing things
...although of course if people are standing there anyway they could maybe make a few notes and pass them on?
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Mike.T. - 7th June 2015
Marc Berger Wrote:but these people don't dig. Their standards are nothing to do with digging.
Definitely untrue seeing as ''consultants'' / county mounties oversee and have the last say in anything we dig. Therefore their standards have everything to do with digging.
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - BAJR - 7th June 2015
WEll said that man
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Marc Berger - 8th June 2015
Well said that man if you happen to be stuck in Scotland and everything belongs to the "crown" like you would expect it too but In merry England all the finds belong to the landowner and the copyrights belong to the archaeologists....Not sure where I read that could have been in the forest charter. Its just that the Mounties from the county and heritage England like to forget that right at the start of a "project" don't they?
Here's the latest wannabe standard joke that ignores those two very integral aspects that make up something called "my" archive. In merry englande https://content.historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/gpa2-managing-significance-in-decision-taking/gpa2.pdf/. Is got something called a wsi in it and also those subjects such as "Marketing to demonstrate redundancy" which no field archaeologist should be without. It also seems very smug about cifa. What's the odds that who ever wrote this standard gets their membership paid for by the government (probably using taxes from north sea). But then you won't ever find out who the author is and it will never see the light of paper. Seems to have been written for the historic environment forum wherewhat if it can't eat it's own tail. I am probably better spending my time considering "nemo dat quod non habet"
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Marc Berger - 8th June 2015
Quote:Decisions are occasionally made high enough up the governmental food chain to circumvent 'normal' ways of doing thingswhat you mean Dino is that instead of doing the archaeology to inform the decision making process as in para.128 of the NPPF they somehow managed to get the assessment to disappear in the conditions post application?
...although of course if people are standing there anyway they could maybe make a few notes and pass them on?
Are Standards in field Archaeology Slipping - Sikelgaita - 8th June 2015
Marc Berger Wrote:Seems to have been written for the historic environment forum
Well its title is 'Historic Environment Good Practice In Planning' so it seems to me to be unsurprising that the Historic Environment 'forum' is the target audience, or do you think it should be aimed at someone different?