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What ONE thing would change archaeology - BAJR Host - 4th July 2008
Pick one... think careful now... what would be the one thing that would make the difference, tip the balance and alter the odds....
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
What ONE thing would change archaeology - Dirty Dave Lincoln - 5th July 2008
Hosty,your question used the word "archaeology" not archaeologist so i'm a little confused as the choices are for the people's benefit not the subject.
Perhaps a re-wording of the choices adding one about legislation?now that I could vote for,in the meantime a pack of cheese of onion crisps would keep me happy!:face-approve:
What ONE thing would change archaeology - vulpes - 5th July 2008
Legislation for what, Dave? CLG, EH etc have just announced that PPG16 is to be replaced / reviewed, hopefully by the end of the year. Is that what you mean? Or some other aspect of law/guidance?
What ONE thing would change archaeology - BAJR Host - 6th July 2008
My bad Dirty Dave.! I should explain further.... by changing the underlying economic/perceptual basis of archaeology, the lot of archaeologists will change, however, it is archaeology (business) that must change.
I am (I have to admit) a bit shocked at the poll... I did not think career progression would rate so high... I learn soemthing new!
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
What ONE thing would change archaeology - Dirty Dave Lincoln - 6th July 2008
Exactly Sir,the lot of archaeologists would (I hope) improve if ALL units from the smallest to the largest were actually registered organizations,and signed up to a code of conduct to insure:
1-a decent wage-packet.
2-no more forcing people to be self employed,and losing out on sick/holiday entitlements.
3-a decent contract for everyone,especially for those classed as only temporary.
4-actually treating diggers as archaeologists instead of just being hired hands who are only there to do as their told (i've already had a rant on an earlier topic about equality for all in archaeology,and how everyone deserves to be attributed for their contribution to the proffession).
5-a code of conduct for units to adhere to so that the highest standard of work can be acheived for projects,which will only happen when rediculously low tenders are rejected because of low budgets for things such as finds.
For archaeology to improve it will take a concerted effort by everyone involved and that i believe will only happen when we have legislation to insure everyone is working together.
Career progression doesn't really surprise me as a lot of people seem to think they can only improve their lot by moving up the ladder,and the way units are set up this is actually true!
But if all the injuns become chiefs-who will actually do the digging?:face-thinks:
What ONE thing would change archaeology - Oxbeast - 7th July 2008
Quote:quote:Career progression doesn't really surprise me as a lot of people seem to think they can only improve their lot by moving up the ladder,and the way units are set up this is actually true!
Well, the higher graded people get paid more money. Isn't that the way it works in every industry? I'd like to see the whole ladder moved up a couple of notches.
What ONE thing would change archaeology - BAJR Host - 7th July 2008
moved up and telescoped!
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
What ONE thing would change archaeology - Dirty Dave Lincoln - 10th July 2008
Oxbeast,nice quote-having just read it me thinks I could have worded it a lot better! (so i'm no literary genius,though everyone's probably guessed that by now)[:I]
What ONE thing would change archaeology - 1man1desk - 10th July 2008
Posted by Dirty Dave:
Quote:quote:But if all the injuns become chiefs-who will actually do the digging?Well, career progression takes time. The point is to know that, as you gain more experience/knowledge, there is the opportunity to move into jobs with more responsibility (and that are better paid), up until you retire. At present, for many archaeologists, there is a perception that it is easy to get stuck at a low level with little chance of progression, irrespective of merit.
Of course, in any meritocratic profession, not everyone would move as fast or as far up the ladder. The point is that the opportunity to do so should be there.
Not all the indians would become chiefs. There is a constant supply of new indians, while there is a constant wastage of chiefs (through retirement, death and career changes). That is how it works in any profession with a properly-defined career structure.
1man1desk
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What ONE thing would change archaeology - BAJR Host - 11th July 2008
A worrying thing I am seeing is a lack of chiefs, as the injuns are getting out before B)
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu