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Future Monopoly? - Unitof1 - 15th July 2008
RE you will feel better, go on, go on, go on,
The good DrW
We could go back to the Ordnance Survey Act 1841 and how they got out of mapping antiquities if you want.
I meanly took the registration date of the charities, a device which appears for these two in the early 80s. A time of great change. I suggest that it provides identity something that CAM arc (RIP) outside of its service agreements may not have had -possibly CAM arc (RIP) was a last example of one of your 1970s units.
I commend all those who worked in a UNIT in the 70s but I have not seen any account of their legal standing to comment on their identities. Is this not something that we are still unravelling today with the mysteries of ex-council and universities and quangos, local regional national and specialist monopolies
Future Monopoly? - gorilla - 15th July 2008
Oh that "I hate all councils and all their lacky's" chestnut... yawn. Bored now
I hate every ape I see,
From chimpan-a to chimpanzee,
You'll never make a monkey out of me!
Future Monopoly? - RedEarth - 15th July 2008
Quote:quote:Originally posted by gorilla
Oh that "I hate all councils and all their lacky's" chestnut... yawn. Bored now
I hate it more when people say things like 'it's all jobs for the boys' implying that I work for the council when I don't.
It is a considerable problem in terms of fairness and competition when for example, oh I don't know, the unit and the HER/SMR are in the same building, even the same office. So rather than having to make a special trip to look at something and possibly paying a consultancy charge it is basically free. I can't imagine that would go down very well in any other industry - there are commissions that deal with these things I believe.
I hate to have to use such brutally corporate ways of thinking but for the vast majority of archaeologists working today their conditions of work could probably vastly improve if there was a more level playing field. This may have strayed slightly off topic but I doubt it, as some of the bigger units are in the more priviledged position.
Future Monopoly? - BAJR Host - 15th July 2008
Not the only one gorilla.... I am still trying to work out why it is that Uo1 does not like charities... (did an oxfam shirt not fit or soemthing?) Charities have a specific remit, and if they fulfil that remit then fair play, if at the same time they can provide security and commercial accumen... then I am there to compete.. on a playing field of quality... not cost. I can't do a Pipeline by myself (unless it was a hose pipe) but neither can a larger group take my smaller specialist projects... I do what I do, and I do it well (I hope) - I don't spend my time mumping about others.. I spend my time looking to my own responsibilites... there are many things that can be looked at... indeed there are... but the continual blaming is pointless twaddle ... We have worked out that Uo1 does not liked council/pension/charity unit... is it possible to move the stuck needle on? Or perhaps spending too much time on the charity commission website rather.. get yourself to another charity... and do something positive..
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"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
Future Monopoly? - BAJR Host - 15th July 2008
Quote:quote: is a considerable problem in terms of fairness and competition when for example, oh I don't know, the unit and the HER/SMR are in the same building, even the same office. So rather than having to make a special trip to look at something and possibly paying a consultancy charge it is basically free. I can't imagine that would go down very well in any other industry - there are commissions that deal with these things I believe.
a real point... a particular bugbear of mine too...
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
Future Monopoly? - ShadowJack - 15th July 2008
Real bugbear of mine as well...the assumption that a local authority unit gets preferential terms from their HER office.
As CAM ARC - we paid the same fees for an HER search that everyone else did.
ShadowJack
Future Monopoly? - Windbag - 15th July 2008
Quote:quote:Originally posted by drpeterwardle
The context of the times has to be remembered 50% of the population were in state employment.
That is still the case in Scotland.
Future Monopoly? - RedEarth - 15th July 2008
Quote:quote:Originally posted by ShadowJack
Real bugbear of mine as well...the assumption that a local authority unit gets preferential terms from their HER office.
As CAM ARC - we paid the same fees for an HER search that everyone else did.
ShadowJack
That's encouraging to hear, but I don't know how universal that approach was/is. It might be a lot better than the last time I had any dealings with such as situation.
Future Monopoly? - Unitof1 - 16th July 2008
Hosty
Quote:quote: Charities have a specific remit
What is the archaeological charities remit. Look after me in my old age? Give a monkies about archaeologists in a different county? Walk down the high street collecting monies for the good cause? Perhaps the diggers would like to give a tithe as well as join the ifa as a peefor. We have got ppg16. Education my big toe. <removed 8 words - AUP>
Were the charities set up by archaeologists for archaeologists or by civil servants looking to sort out a pensions mess? Hosty your web sites got more right to be called a charity than those that cloak themselves in the invisibility jacket of archaeology education charity.
And for all those who are charged for HER information. Go to you local councillor and scream blue murder or maybe you might like to charge for the use of your copyright. Local regional national politics is the key that has barely been explored by the pure of heart (but has been by Sybille Serpents). And they want to be statutory#65533;.
Archaeological education charities are the monopoly in archaeology. They have been around far too long. Monopolies of the mind.
Wake up Maggie It late July and I saw an obituary for CAMarch (RIP) Please send donations to the archaeological education charity OA. Family flowers only.
Future Monopoly? - Unitof1 - 16th July 2008
By the way Drwad I used Thomas Cook in the v early 1980s to go to Eygypt I went via Sudan Air which I think had the worst accident record in the whole of world history and as a passenger I was asked to help winch the undercarriage down on arrival in chiroe. Then on the way back Sadat got shot and the airport was closed and I had to spend four days in chiroe hilton drinking double vodkas and tonic and eating a rather nice and extensive buffet breakfast before going round the corner to the chiroe museum to stare at the fly collections in most of the mummy cabinets. Evenings I spent in Heliopolis, a culturaly nocturnal centre for eastern euorpean women studying belly dancing. Later in my career I took the opportunity, with mixed feelings, to book my own flights.