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Welfare - Ken Denham - 5th May 2009
Could any of you out there tell me what the basic or minimum legal provisions are under Health and Safety for welfare on sites?
I've just been informed about a situation that has occurred and before I comment I'd like to know the answer(s) to the above question. I think I know what they are but would like some confirmation if possible.
Welfare - Ken Denham - 5th May 2009
Oh, and I'll be off line for a week or so as I'm working down country.
Welfare - Austin Ainsworth - 5th May 2009
Hi Ken,
Start with this http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg244.pdf 'Workplace health, safety and welfare' from the HSE. Don't forget to check out the amendments for construction site workers.
Welfare - Ken Denham - 5th May 2009
Cheers Austin.
Welfare - beamo - 6th May 2009
This is perhaps the most relevant HSE guidance regarding welfare on temporary construction sites
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/cis46.pdf
Beamo
Welfare - kevin wooldridge - 6th May 2009
The situation is not cut and dried and there could however be problems as outlined in this section of the document:
Where the Construction (Design and Management)
Regulations 1994 [u]apply</u>, welfare provision needs to be
considered in both the pre-tender and construction
phase health and safety plans.
...and this section
This leaflet contains notes on good practice
which are not compulsory but which you may
find helpful in considering what you need to do.
A number of interpretations have suggested that CDM Regs do not apply to archaeologists unless they are working on a site where the Regs apply to other workers.
Further the regulations [u]only</u> apply when a minimum number of staff are employed and for a minimum period of time. And then as it says these are recommended good practice and not compulsory.
I would suggest that the workers on the site that Ken is concerned about take the following actions:
- Talk to your co-workers about the situation
- Talk to your trade union
- Talk to your management
With peace and consolation hath dismist, And calm of mind all passion spent...
Welfare - monty - 6th May 2009
Good points Kevin, this situation does and has happened. Its often a case of the employer not willing to spend a small amount in my experience...shocking but true !!
Welfare - Sith - 7th May 2009
Quote:quote:Originally posted by kevin wooldridge
A number of interpretations have suggested that CDM Regs do not apply to archaeologists unless they are working on a site where the Regs apply to other workers.
You've forgotten the other old favourite - that CDM doesn't apply to archaeology because it doesn't fall under the definition of "construction work" used in the Regs.
Quote:quote:Further the regulations [u]only</u> apply when a minimum number of staff are employed and for a minimum period of time. And then as it says these are recommended good practice and not compulsory.
CDM applies if the 'construction' phase is likely to involve more than 30 days or 500 person days of construction work. Numbers of personnel and the length of the project are irrelevant. (CDM 2007, Interpretation, Section 2-(3))
Anyhow, these 'minimum standards' and 'recommendations' should really be adopted as best practice by everyone. The fact that we've all spent time eating our lunch in a cr*ppy site hut and that it's possible to avoid providing appropriate facilities is no excuse.
Even the Deathstar provides an adequate supply of wholesome drinking water for its crew.
D. Vader
Senior Consultant
Vader Maull & Palpatine
Archaeological Consultants
Your lack of archaeological imagination disappoints me Curator
Welfare - Unitof1 - 8th July 2009
Ken says
thank you for your interest
but as a Labour supporter theres not much left in the tank
Welfare - tom wilson - 9th July 2009
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Unitof1
Ken says
thank you for your interest
but as a Labour supporter theres not much left in the tank
Mark,
if you look at the top of each thread, you'll see there's a title. We call this the 'topic'. The original poster ('OP') invites people to write things about that 'topic'.
I just wondered whether you had ever noticed that fact.
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