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Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - Printable Version +- BAJR Federation Archaeology (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk) +-- Forum: BAJR Federation Forums (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: The Site Hut (http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=7) +--- Thread: Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. (/showthread.php?tid=2768) |
Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - Geli - 1st March 2010 I am curious to know the opinion of other archaeologist regarding the matter of random alcohol and drug tests that are being increasingly carried out on the larger projects. All the bumf we are given always makes them sound reasonable on the basis of health and safety and the basic attitude is "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear"! My personal opinion is that they are invasive and basically a breach of civil liberties!?:face-confused: Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - BAJR - 1st March 2010 This is one that happened before, and must be reasonable, and can be carried out by the compnay themselves, based on the status and requirement. a blanket coverage is unusual, it is often a randomn selection... basically, times have changed from the days where you popped to the pub fr lunch for 2 or three pint... then headed back to site and jump onto the kubota mini digger... Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - Geli - 1st March 2010 I'm sorry but I don't think its reasonable - it's just made to sound reasonable. There are major problems with the whole process. As I've already said the health and safety card is played to good effect. The only people with a real vested interest in testing are the private testing firms! Just another case of the creeping fascism predicted by Orwell. Any way have a look at these links. http://www.jrf.org.uk/publications/drug-testing-workplacesummary-conclusions-independent-inquiry-drug-testing-work http://www.hazards.org/testingtimes/drugtesting.htm PS I'm sorry if this theme is repetitive but I missed the discussion last time, and would like to know what people think (even if my own mind is made up). Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - Maggie - 1st March 2010 Quote:Just another case of the creeping fascism predicted by Orwell. Maybe to a certain extent that is true. However I have heard quite a few scary stories about people who have been out of their faces on site. It is not just themselves they are putting at risk but other people as well. Like it or not drug taking is actually illegal in this country so I can't see how it is an infringement of your rights to be tested. Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - Windbag - 1st March 2010 Geli Wrote:The only people with a real vested interest in testing are the private testing firms! And the employers who are liable for any breaches of health and safety on site, and the employees and members of the public who may be affected by an incident arising from an individual working under the influence. I can see how it could be seen as an intrusion into people's private lives - as far as I'm concerned, what people do in their own time is entirely up to them - but if I get run over by a drunken van driver, or hit by a machine bucket from an operator who is under the influence, I wouldn't be too chuffed, and neither would the HSE. So what's the alternative? Alter your behaviour to suit the requirements of your industry, take the chance that you won't get tested, or change the kind of jobs you choose to do. I.e., don't go for large-scale infrastructure jobs working alongside other construction staff. Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - Geli - 1st March 2010 Maggie: I think firstly that if a member of staff came on to the job drunk or otherwise intoxicated then immediately their supervisor would clearly be able to tell without the aid of a test. Secondly people do take illegal drugs in this country on a recreational basis but by the same token manage to hold down jobs and are productive members of the workforce. Are such people to be marginalised and forced out of the work place? Would this be constructive to the work environment or society in general? One of the conclusions of the independently carried out inquiry sponsored by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation concluded there to be "no justification for drug testing in the workplace as a means of policing the private behaviour of employees, or of improving performance and productivity. It suggests that although drug testing does have a role to play, particularly where safety is a concern, investment in management training and systems is likely to have a more positive impact and to be less costly, divisive and invasive." Windbag: again the health and safety angle. I can as any reasonable person would be able to, see the need for people to be sober at work especially those operating large potentially dangerous plant, but I would again refer you to the above answer. Additionally independent analysis of results gained from testing highlight no significant problem with drug and alcohol at work. So what is the point? This is just a solution looking for a problem. Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - RedEarth - 1st March 2010 Do you also then consider it an invasion of people's civil liberties if they are tested while driving? Personally I'd be pretty concerned if I suspected someone was on site off their face and using heavy machinery! The fact that they consider it worthwhile at all suggests that it has been an issue in the past. Or indeed it could be part of a creeping Orwellian nightmare, if you believe in such things... Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - BAJR - 1st March 2010 See this: http://www.contractjournal.com/Articles/2009/11/09/73442/legal-testing-the-limits-of-drug-policy.html Quote:Construction industry giants, including Bovis Lend Lease and Laing O'Rourke, have introduced random on-the-spot drug and alcohol tests on their sites following implementation of low or zero-tolerance substance misuse policies. However, dismissals following a positive result may not always be fair, and the terms of any policy may also give rise to a conflict between public safety and privacy issues. So how can an employer introduce and implement a policy to avoid findings of unfair dismissal?Here the suggestion is clear policy... from the employing company... AND that the last timee this reared its head... it was due to hungover archaeologists on a capital site. Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - Geli - 1st March 2010 Key findings of the Rowntree Inquiry: The evidence on the links between drug use and accidents at work, absenteeism, low productivity and poor performance was inconclusive. Most employers who had drug tested employees told the IIDTW that levels of positive results were very low. There is a lack of evidence for a strong link between drug use and accidents in safety-critical industries, such as transport, engineering, quarrying and mining. Clearly, however, drug- and alcohol-induced intoxication will be a source of risk in such environments. However, other factors may have a greater impact on safety, productivity and performance, including bad working conditions, sleeping and health problems, excessive workloads and work-related stress. Evidence considered by the IIDTW suggests that alcohol is probably a greater cause for concern in the workplace than illicit drugs. There is no clear evidence that drug testing at work has a significant deterrent effect. Drug testing is not a measure of current intoxication and will reveal information about drug use that can have no impact on safety, productivity or performance. Someone may test positive after taking a drug days, weeks or months before. People are not generally required to organise their lives to maximise their productivity at work, and employers do not have a direct law enforcement function. Empowering employers to investigate private behaviour actively - in the absence of legitimate safety or performance concerns - is in conflict with liberal-democratic values. The IIDTW found that the legal position on drug testing at work is confused. Employers could be open to legal challenge if they invade the privacy of employees unnecessarily, particularly under the Human Rights Act 1998 and the Data Protection Act 1998. Drug testing services in the UK are being provided by a very disparate group of companies and individuals. Many of them are very responsible. But the picture is mixed, with evidence that some of these companies may be making what appear to be inflated claims about the extent and impact of alcohol and drug problems in the workplace and the effectiveness of their own products. Remarkably little is known about the extent of drug testing at work in the UK. Perhaps the most reliable information comes from a small survey conducted by the IIDTW which found that 4 per cent of employers who responded were conducting drug tests, and a further 9 per cent were 'likely' to introduce drug tests in the next year. Many employers and experts who gave evidence to the IIDTW highlighted the costs of drug testing at work. These include not only financial costs but also the potentially divisive nature of testing and the costs of excluding otherwise responsible and capable people from employment. Alcohol and Drug Testing in the Workplace. - kevin wooldridge - 1st March 2010 In reply to Geli's original mail ...if you feel that your civil liberties are threatened by random alcohol or drug testing you can always refuse to sign a contract that stipulates such testing or refuse to take a test. Unfortunately you may find that you no longer have a job....but you will have the satisfaction of knowing that the moral high ground is all yours!! :I |