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Working Hours? Do you ? - BAJR - 24th April 2012
We all know them and often have to work them. for whatever reason, but as you know the BAJR Rates are based on the 37.5 hour week.
Now... say you are asked to work 37 hours or less per week. this would reduce your digger pay down to say ?305 ish a week instead of 308pw Not much but noticeable. Better a job though than none.
BUT... do you work 37 hours? do you finish early on the Friday? if you work over 37 hours what are you paid? look at your contract? What about travel time? do you travel 2 hours a day? Do you drive staff to and from site? are you paid?
If the answer to any of these includes the "I am paid for 37 but I work more unpaid"or "I drive people to and from site, but that is unpaid" I would like to hear from you - I STRICT CONFIDENCE... email me to start off... and I will phone you back.
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Working Hours? Do you ? - Dinosaur - 24th April 2012
That include all the exciting background reading to even remotely keep up to date?
Working Hours? Do you ? - BAJR - 24th April 2012
Fancy Booklernin is fer your own time!
Working Hours? Do you ? - Dinosaur - 24th April 2012
Thought it might be
So in fact to keep even remotely up to scratch its a 24/7? :0
Working Hours? Do you ? - Unitof1 - 24th April 2012
if you are self employed it depends what you are reading, where you are reading, how you got to the reading. So I have expenses to go to the archieves/libary. A grey area is if I buy a book is that it should have an elemet of being a reference book and then it has probably to be treated as a capital allowence. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/factsheets/expenses-allowances.pdf. I presume that if I paid someone to do the reading I could call that research. The way to get it so that my research was costed would be to set up a business and pay me a salary, I think but have never gone down that route.
when you are self employed the hours that you work is a bit of a trick question. There quite a few forms which ask the question of how many hours you work, tax credits being one of them. Recently there was some moaning going on about tax credits only being available to those families working 24 hour in a week up from 16 to be eligible to claim. Seems to me that you could claim that you had a self employed business. I currently run three. How many you running hosty?
Working Hours? Do you ? - Wax - 24th April 2012
self employment is a bit different as you choose the hours you work and how much you charge for them. What about management level posts where it is the norm to expect staff to be working way above and beyond the paid hours just to keep the company afloat? Or is that what they get paid the big money for?
Working Hours? Do you ? - Jack - 25th April 2012
Wax Wrote:self employment is a bit different as you choose the hours you work and how much you charge for them. What about management level posts where it is the norm to expect staff to be working way above and beyond the paid hours just to keep the company afloat? Or is that what they get paid the big money for?
That's one of the worst and most prevalent afflictions that the people of this country suffer from.
Call it industrial disease, call it dedication, call it exploitation.
There does seem to be an idea that its 'expected', or 'everybody does it' etc.
But from what I've heard it's not the case elsewhere in Europe.
Fair days pay for a fair days work if you ask me.
We are not machines. We can't perform at maximum efficiency for an unlimited time. The relationship between hours worked and work produced is not a linear one.
Pipelines jobs are a great example. Take eight hours work and stretch it out for 12 hours. Everyone gets paid more, but little extra work gets done..............in some case less gets done due to burn out, stress and illness.
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Working Hours? Do you ? - Dinosaur - 25th April 2012
There speaks a man who I know for a fact takes piles of books home with him of an evening.....
Working Hours? Do you ? - RedEarth - 25th April 2012
It's been said a number of times before I'm sure, at least by me, but having recognised salary rates (via the IfA, BAJR or whoever) is fine, but only if the hours advertised are the hours worked. Otherwise the pay rate is meaningless. I'm certainly aware of jobs that can only feasibly be being carried out on the basis of people travelling 2 hours to get somewhere, doing 8 hours (or more!) work and then travelling 2 hours back again, and I have been expected to work such hours before now. Had I known better at the time I would have refused. Of course, lots of people do it so it is a vicious circle. It's one of the most pernicious elements of current working practice in my opinion. I'm getting a little sick of loosing jobs and thinking 'the only way they could have done it for that price is to deliberately not cost in any accommodation and expect people to drive there and back each day'. It's frankly disgusting exploitation.
Working Hours? Do you ? - Wax - 25th April 2012
Jack Wrote:We are not machines. We can't perform at maximum efficiency for an unlimited time. The relationship between hours worked and work produced is not a linear one.Very true and I know many people in other industries who have "burnt out" Archaeology has a surplus work force so an exploitative employer can afford to have staff drop by the wayside and as long as they are allowed to getaway with it they will.
There are many stress induced illnesses that are technically industrial injury but does anyone ever claim compensation for them?
Jack is right this country does suffer from this strange notion that to get on you have to put in more than the paid for hours. I bet most Continuing Professional Development is done in people's own time, how many archaeology companies allow for the CPD hours recommended by the IFA to take place in company time?