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Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - VGC - 22nd March 2013 Well this seems very worrying! Quote: Nick Boles, the planning minister, attended a meeting with some of the countryâs biggest property developers hours after George Osborneâs speech on Wednesday in which he told them he was prepared for an acrimonious battle with countryside campaigners.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/hands-off-our-land/9947318/Planning-ministers-war-on-the-countryside.html Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Oxbeast - 22nd March 2013 Quote:The Telegraph’s Hands Off Our Land campaign persuaded ministers to water down the scale of their initial plans, in the months leading up to the publication of the NPPF in March last year. Well that seems to have backfired. Hard to tell what impact this might have without much detail of the changes. I'm not bothered about commercial premises being turned residential, there are plenty of empty shops in most towns. I'm surprised to hear that they have 'pots of money' to give to devolopers and spend on keeping the housing bubble inflated, I thought they were always bleating that Labour spent all the money. The massive subsidies to developers announced in the budget might mean more archaeology as well. Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Kel - 22nd March 2013 Quote:The massive subsidies to developers announced in the budget might mean more archaeology as well.Call me a pessimist, but it's more likely that archaeology planning guidance will be relaxed. With local government cuts, there are barely enough staff to deal with current development workload. Any increase will cause the system to start folding. Rather than hold up all this economy-boosting development until the archaeology has been properly considered/dealt with, it's more likely that the requirements will be loosened (or done away with under some circumstances). If the archaeology on the HS2 route was done to decent standards under current guidance, it might hold that project up for decades (lots of archaeology/not enough archaeologists). Be interesting to see the compromises which will be made there. Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Oxbeast - 22nd March 2013 Well, the consultancy on the DBA/EIS for HS2 is well underway, and has been for at least a year to my knowledge. I can't see it holding up the project for decades, but certainly compromises will have to be made. The tories have tried to loosen archaeology planning guidance before (remember Cllr. Melton in Fenland), and got rather shot down by their own side. I would hope that would happen again. Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Kel - 22nd March 2013 Well the consultation on HS2 compensation has already been ruled unlawful. Hope archaeology has some deep pockets for court action. The strategy of the current government seems to be that they try their luck and see who (if anyone) complains, then backtrack if forced to. They're introducing new legislation specifically for HS2, so abandoning a policy which was only ever guidance, won't be a problem. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21795755 Worth noting that even the Labour shadow transport secretary refers to it as a "vital infrastructure project", so they're looking to minimise delays as well. Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Antipesto - 22nd March 2013 Would that be because if they can get it green-lit before 2015 then (assuming they get in) they can just blame everything on the previous govt? Me, cynical much? Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Oxbeast - 22nd March 2013 It is already green lit. The decision to build HS2 has already been taken. There are just legal arguments about how much compensation should be paid to people whose houses have dropped in value and how this should be consulted for, none of which has anything to do with archaeology. Archaeology has been considered very early in the process, and therefore it should not cause significant delays (when compared to engineering problems, say). Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Sith - 22nd March 2013 I know I'm a cracked record on this particular topic, but can ANYONE explain to me why we are paying people to buy houses they cannot afford, when the only benificiary will ultimately be the property developers themselves? None of these things are actually stopping them from developing land. Planning rules are only stopping them from developing the most 'attractive' sites and reducing the amount of profit they make. What might be helpful would be a requirement for developers to contribute to the upgrade of local services such as roads, rail etc., which thir unsustainable developments are grinding to a halt. The small town where my girlfriend's parents lived until a few years ago has grown to about twice its original size due to new housing, but without any investment in the transport infrastructure. As a result, a morning commute to the nearest city (the one about to downsize it's archaeological advisory team) is a 15 mile long traffic jam. Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - tmsarch - 22nd March 2013 Sith Wrote:I know I'm a cracked record on this particular topic, but can ANYONE explain to me why we are paying people to buy houses they cannot afford, when the only benificiary will ultimately be the property developers themselves? None of these things are actually stopping them from developing land. Planning rules are only stopping them from developing the most 'attractive' sites and reducing the amount of profit they make. Sith I think you are right to be a 'cracked record' on this. The easy explanation as for why we as tax payers are in effect subsidisng property developers is because these property developers have substantial (particularly financially significant) influence on the present government and this is clearly reflected in the language employed by Mr Boles. Of course as archaeologists many of us rely on development work for employment (either directly or indirectly) and any measures to stimulate development must have at least some positive benefits. HS2 is a headline grabbing commitment to infrastructure development (although whether this government will pick up the tab is another matter), but local infrastructure â schools, roads, etc seems to be largely neglected and I suspect this local infrastructure would more positivily benefit the archaeological industry as a whole. My main issue is that this government's measures, be they financial or planning related will do nothing to stimulate more development. For example the 'Help to Buy' scheme is being sold as a helping hand to assist people get onto the housing market by funding deposit shortfalls. The problem is that a requirement for a 20% deposit isn't a bad thing per-se (indeed it could be argued to be financially prudent). The problem is the affordability of a 20% deposit and in particular the ratio between wages and house prices. This is particularly acute for low paid workers such as archaeologists where the ratio of wages to even modest accommodation puts home ownership beyond the reach of most. Likewise these efforts to 'ease restrictions' on planning will not stimulate significantly more house building, what it will do is make the current levels of house building more profitable for developers. The government and developers are doing everything in their power to prevent a re-adjustment in house prices. Indeed it is currently in developerâs interests to control supply by drip-releasing developments to the market - by limiting supply they can keep demand and therefore prices high. The vast majority of planning applications submitted are granted - planning policy is not restricting development - the non-affordability of houses and the government and house builderâs desire to keep the house price bubble inflated is. Locally my impression is that politically members are so desperate to see âsomething happenâ that any development that is put forward, no matter how un-sustainable, un-suitable or un-viable, is jumped at with open arms â they are so desperate not to be seen to be âblocking growthâ that all rational consideration of environmental issues is going out of the window. This government's planning and housing policy will be a double blow to archaeologists - in terms of a stagnant employment market and continuing low wages. For the actual archaeology - I fear developers will land bank those sites that they have that already benefit from planning consents and try speculative submissions for sites that were previously 'out-of-bounds'. The developers well and truly have politicians in their pockets (at all levels) and I cannot see this as being a good thing for archaeology or archaeologists. Given that I work in local government I should perhaps note that all views and opinions in this message are mine and mine alone - no inference is implied nor should be perceived as any official view of any company, organisation or body that I may be associated with or employed by at the time of posting. Planning Permission to be relaxed (again) - Dinosaur - 23rd March 2013 There certainly doesnt seem to be any shortage of housing schemes (a lot of them huge, 50ha+) either going through various stages of planning or actually under construction around here, so the existing planning regs are hardly choking the system, merely raising the developers' overheads/cutting their profits - its more a case of who the h*** they're planning on selling them to? There are already plenty of overpriced empty properties (3 out of 40 in my street, plus 2 unlet student houses = 12.5%, and its a 'good' street) so do we really need more on green-field sites? On a different track, the construction industry should take a long hard look at how they do stuff, from the top-down incompetence and inefficiency I've seen over the years on numerous schemes, they could be knocking out the same houses for half the price - e.g. why do they always topsoil-strip the whole site (which they invariably then turn into a swamp as a rod for their own backs) and then put it all back after (often using new imported soil) - that must all be costing a fortune and also adds to their archaeological overheads. A couple of weeks ago I was treated to some builders machining up (into a skip) freshly-laid kerb-stones so they could, errr, lay all the services...makes you want to weep... :face-crying: |