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Apache Helicopter targets Silbury (not a spoof!)
#11
the theroy is good, infra red should indicate a missle lock, but i've been trying for years and never got the edm to fire quick enough or be in the right place at the right time.

"No sleep till Natural"
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#12
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Smaze

the theroy is good, infra red should indicate a missle lock, but i've been trying for years and never got the edm to fire quick enough or be in the right place at the right time.

"No sleep till Natural"

This all depends on the seeker or sensor installed in the missile. The short range AIM9 uses a heat sensor, whereas Beyond Visual Ranage systems, eg, Sparrow, AIM54 Phoenix used either semi-active radar (target is painted by the launch aircraft - the F14 could launch a forget 6 of these at different targets), or use an onboard active radar. The AIM120 uses a combination of data links, either from the launch aircraft, a data link from a second plane, e.g. an AWACS, or its own infra-red search and trackking system.

Pointing an EDM at any military aircraft that has the appropriate sensor may result in detection, but generally radars are used to track aircraft, and MK I Eyeball.
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#13
And (as I can't edit my posts), lasers are used to blind or disorient pilots. Hence the recent pieces about the police helicopters having sensors installed to track the point of origin of an 'attack'.
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#14
I bloody well hope he had his safetys on, cuz I'm not going back to fix another hole in that hill!!!

I also had an Apache line up on my car as I travelled down a Salisbury Plain tank road a few years back. Cool, but very worrying.
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#15
Quote:quote:Originally posted by mercenary

I bloody well hope he had his safetys on, cuz I'm not going back to fix another hole in that hill!!!

I also had an Apache line up on my car as I travelled down a Salisbury Plain tank road a few years back. Cool, but very worrying.

That was to distract your attention from the Challenger 2 about to flatten you.

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#16
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Talisien

Quote:quote:Originally posted by Smaze

the theroy is good, infra red should indicate a missle lock, but i've been trying for years and never got the edm to fire quick enough or be in the right place at the right time.

"No sleep till Natural"

This all depends on the seeker or sensor installed in the missile. The short range AIM9 uses a heat sensor, whereas Beyond Visual Ranage systems, eg, Sparrow, AIM54 Phoenix used either semi-active radar (target is painted by the launch aircraft - the F14 could launch a forget 6 of these at different targets), or use an onboard active radar. The AIM120 uses a combination of data links, either from the launch aircraft, a data link from a second plane, e.g. an AWACS, or its own infra-red search and trackking system.

Pointing an EDM at any military aircraft that has the appropriate sensor may result in detection, but generally radars are used to track aircraft, and MK I Eyeball.

Hi
You are a scary, scary person, you know that don't you!Big Grin

Steven
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#17
Was on a training dig on Cranborne Chase last September and military helis were using the next-door field for landing exercises. Got a bit boring after a couple of hours. Then they tried an attack run down the hill directly at us, about 20 feet off the ground. It was like Apocalypse Now with trowels. When we failed to throw ourselves behind the nearest spoilheap in alarm, they got the hump and went home. Nerves of steel, us. *Twang*

I once read a story in an IT paper where some traffic cops had managed to get their speed camera to fix on a Tornado as it passed on a regular training route, and sent the local RAF base a speeding ticket. It was returned with a note to the effect that, at the time, the Tornado had had weapons lock on Plod's equipment, and suggesting that they should come to a mutually-beneficial arrangement...
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Quote:quote:[i]

Hi
You are a scary, scary person, you know that don't you!Big Grin

Steven

Big Grin
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#19
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Kel

I once read a story in an IT paper where some traffic cops had managed to get their speed camera to fix on a Tornado as it passed on a regular training route, and sent the local RAF base a speeding ticket. It was returned with a note to the effect that, at the time, the Tornado had had weapons lock on Plod's equipment, and suggesting that they should come to a mutually-beneficial arrangement...

This story has more 'legs' than those of the EDMs as they police are using a radar. The RAF use ALARM (Air Launched Anti-radar Missile). The seeker locks onto the signal, and away it goes. If the radar is switched off, it has a loiter facility (assuming the lock has not been achieved before launch). When the radar switches back on, the parachute is dumped and away it goes...

I was working in a large quarry after the Twin Towers were destroyed. We had a lot of practice shaking our fists and other equipment as the USAF used us and the earth-moving machinary as targets. The RAF Chinook pilots were always friendly and managed a wave as they flew past at about 50 feet.
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#20
That video reminds of the Apache that did a mock attack run on the HQ of a nearby archaeology unit. Wished I'd recorded it.
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