Draft Heritage Protection Bill

[vulpes]

Try searching the document for the phrase 'special local interest'. Not sure that this represents an improvement - the local list thing is probably just another ball that has been dropped, a bit like the class consents issue. Local lists may provide designation without protection, effectively marking locally significant buildings for demolition.

If what Winders says comes true. Then would be the time to create a local list.

[Winders]

I'm hoping it'll work out that way from the white paper. To be honest, I could see it being difficult to argue at an appeal why a building was worthy of local list protection if the procedure for local listing was not defined. Cart before horse etc.

Class consents are an interesting one- I think the devil will be in the detail of the regulations issued on this topic by the Secretary of State...

[historic building]

quote:Originally posted by Winders

Have you tried the powers that county councils also have to declare conservation areas?

I'm fairly certain that all that would be required for making demolition and partial demolition development and therefore under the control of Article 4 directions would not require a new government act and all it would take is yet another amendment of the GPDO.

I recall seeing something about local lists in the section on HERs- once I get to that part of the document again I'll post in more detail.

The district in question is really not looking to actually do anything they would just like to offer a meaningless gesture to the town. We just want to check it will still be meaningless - this really is a totally cynical move.

[Winders]

Looking through it, local lists will be meaningless until as and when the GPDO is amended.

Has the county council considered the threat of designating a conservation area to force the district into doing it themselves? Admittedly they'll have to consult the district as part of the process, and it probably won't help relations between the councils, but if it gets the job done...

[Windbag]

As far as I can tell the main difference is that it offers protection to the interiors of what are currently Listed Buildings if particular objects or structures are worth it.

[Windbag]

Although I haven't read anything yet that says that English Heritage will be given the power storm into people's private homes check they haven't modernised their kitchen!

[Winders]

Erm interiors of LBs are protected by the listings. I know of at least one property which is listed purely because of one room. The object rules seem to clarify the fixtures and fittings problems current with LB protection.

As for giving EH powers of entry like planning authorities, it's there too!

[BAJR Host]

i am interested in

Section 6: Changes to Historic Environment Records Management 42. In England the Bill will place a statutory duty on County Councils, Unitary Councils and National Park Authorities to create and maintain an Historic Environment Record (HER).

Does this mean that local authourities will no longer jsut have to have 'access' to an HER, but will have to maintain one in-house?



"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu

[voice of reason]

no - from the explanatory notes at end of Bill - allows sensible flexibility and maintains of integrated County SMRs rather than fragmenting.

252. It will be ensured that local planning authorities have the power to
make arrangements with one or more other local planning authorities with
HER functions to create and keep up to date an HER for the combined area.

As ever, having an 'HER' (dreadful jargon concoction)is no guarantee of employing a senior and experienced archaeologist to give DC advice based on it.

[BAJR Host]

Thanks VoR ... thought it was a bit ... er radical!

So I take it there is nothing that requires full and professional archaeological advice of planning matters, it can still be left up to a council to decide whether or not they have to seek advice?

"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu