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To reveal your tender to another contractor (or anyone else) is not legal and would invalidate your own tender. At least in would in construction anyway.
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The circumstances outlined in the original post clearly imply a deliberate intent to deceive, in the context of a specific tender.
That would certainly be unethical. As the intent to decieve would be intended to gain an unfair commercial advantage, then it may well be illegal too.
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mmm, in my trade, I will always try to win the business if I can, but I have never and wouldnt phone a competitor for a price to be able to undercut. Not quite cricket is it?
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Depends how much the contract was worth???
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No, it woildn't matter if it was one pound or hundred million pound contract, the principle is the same.
But if it was a real contract, when contractor A rang contractor B, wouldn't B recognise the details as originally provided by client C (or his consultant D)?
And surely you're not telling me that tenders are invited and submitted over the phone????? Even the custard-making industry doesn't do that!
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No, it woildn't matter if it was one pound or hundred million pound contract, the principle is the same.
Yes it would matter because human greed would take over and multi-million pound contracts would have no principles when the crunch came to the crunch.
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I think human greed is dependant on the individual and his/her level of personal integrity rather than the sum of money involved.
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Quote:quote:Originally posted by Steve-B
I think human greed is dependant on the individual and his/her level of personal integrity rather than the sum of money involved.
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I agree... didnt mean taint everyone with the same brush.
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Perhaps we are slightly at cross purposes here. I was referring to the legal and ethical principles, which do not vary with the sum involved, and not to the degree of temptation. I see it as rather unlikely that anyone would either invite or submit multi-million pound tenders in a phone call in any event.
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I have consulted with the FSB and it is an offence to 'obtain a pecuniary advantage by deception'. This would be difficult to prove if not carried through to conclusion but nevertheless shows that it [u]is</u> a legal as well as a moral issue.
An offence is also committed if, by impersonating another individual/body, you adversley affect that person/bodie's reputation - but I don't think that is the case here.
A good piece of advice from the lawyer was never to talk prices over the phone unless you are 100% sure of the callers identity, always ask them to send an email to which you can respond or get a postal address and put it in writing. Most reasonable people will accept this as 'company policy'.