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Poll: IFA good or bad?
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I think IFA has contributed loads to field archaeology
13.57%
27 13.57%
I think IFA has no relevance to field archaeology
12.06%
24 12.06%
I think IFA has done some good for field archaeology, but can do better
36.18%
72 36.18%
I'm unsure
6.03%
12 6.03%
I think IFA is more concerned with making money, and looking after its own
32.16%
64 32.16%
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'What has IFA ever done for us...?'
Just looking at one recent example, the chapters following (or 'below') Cultural Heritage were:

Ecology
Landscape and Visual Amenity
Land Use
Non-Motorised Users
Water Quality and Hydrology
Vehicle travellers, and
Geology, Soils and Contaminated Land.

You should also remember that the order may simply be that in which the environmental coordinator feels like putting them in the final report. Often, different coordinators will use the same (possibly random) order for all their reports.
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Sith Wrote:You should also remember that the order may simply be that in which the environmental coordinator feels like putting them in the final report. Often, different coordinators will use the same (possibly random) order for all their reports.

Yeah I suspect this is the case. Ecology is definately taken more seriously than archaeology by the construction industry as they can be prosecuted, fined and even sent to prison for breaking the rules.
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They can for archaeological infringements of planning too, actually, plus the penalties for bulldozing a Scheduled site are not exactly slapped-wrist territory....
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but how often do companies actually get fined?
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Any of the Curator/EH types who post on here got any figures?
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Would not be possible to answer that one without AUP breach... I suspect teh thread has run it course... are you satisfied that you have an answer? Do you have a full opinion now... give us the final verdict
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Quote:but how often do companies actually get fined?

just giving a number of how many planning conditions go to enforcement over non-discharge of archaeological planning and LBC conditions or SMC breaches/failure to obtain SMC shouldn't be too hard and wouldn't breach AUP. They've got to be figures that EH or DCLG must have kicking around. The names are immaterial and no-one needs them, but a number would be useful and non-controversial. I can think of a couple of instances, but that's getting into AUP territory, which is why I'm not and (I hope) no-one else is going to provide anecdotes...

I just hope it's more logical than the record of the DPP in Treasure Act cases...:face-stir:
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I think you are right David and this thread seems to have run its course.....
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The poll graph seems to have assumed it's final shape, is BAJR going to pass it on to IFA?
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BAJR Wrote:... I suspect teh thread has run it course... are you satisfied that you have an answer? Do you have a full opinion now... give us the final verdict

Although the discussion could go on for decades, I agree I've made my point.......opinion (amongst the sample) of the IFA is low. This seems to be due to lack of publicity, and transfer of information on IFA's part, but seems to indicate a real lack of faith in the institute. And possibly a failing of the IFA to really connect with field archaeologists (troops on the ground).

As Dinosaur asked, will this info be passed onto the IFA? I think its an important point.
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