Altering work hours with no notice

[ShadowJack]

This rant is becoming offensive

[Dinosaur]

I really, REALLY, hate to say this, but he almost had a point there, till it all went off the rails in the last para.....

[BAJR]

LEts keep to the point though... as Dino says, he has a point... but keep the rants to a more positive approach... its not helping ChainofFools its just ranting... and that is not useful

[Unitof1]

We normally work (on this site at least) a 40 hour week, 8-5 each day with a half hour paid break at 10am and then an hour unpaid lunch break at 1pm. Apparently our contracts to the project say we'll work 8 hour days, and by having an hour lunch and a half hour paid break we're only working 7 1/2 hours.

no travel time? 8 hours on site. what kind of contract is that. If the site is the place of work does it mean that you can claim expenses to go the office

[Sith]

The management in this case could probably quite easily have told the client to mind their own business and that their workers were highly efficient and that the process of work includes vast periods not digging. But they didn?t, ha ha.

My own thoughts exactly Unit (and I don't say that often). The archaeologists' working hours are irrelevant to the client or construction contractor, unless the contract specified that a specific amount of time would be spent on site. In that case, it should have been made clear to everyone involved from the outset.

[Unitof1]

blinking nora same thoughts exactly

[Gilraen]

I'm not even going to read all through these posts. But let me tell you a story....

I have worked in a position of management in my company for 10 years.

In March (or thereabouts) 2009 my company started firing people.

The they started making more people redundant.

Then more people.

Redundant.

And then we were told that we had to work a 4 day week, otherwise the 'poor-invaluable-to-the-company-' accountants would lose their jobs.

Now picture the scene 12 months later when we are still only paid to work 4 days a week, yet we actually work 5 days a week. Not only 5 days a week, but because work is 'away'...meh ...you will be PLEASANTLY surprised at how many hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of TOIL (Time Off In Lieu) you can accumulate. Then imagine being that person on the ground directing a project with staff who are paid for every hour they work. And you don't. Get paid that is. Whilst you are smiling all the time, thinking - yes, I finished my PAID working week on Thursday morning....

Something to think about.

So stop being a bunch of babies about being unpaid for 15 effing minutes.

[BAJR]

Although I understand and do sympathise with your position - and your group are the only ones still doing this (to my knowledge) This was to protect the security of the company...

the item on discussion is about changing your work conditions not to protect the operation of the company, but to appease a client.

[Unitof1]

i presume that when they changed the "tea break" conditions it was to protect the opperation of the company. Sounds like they agred to a contract but had not read their own fine detail like the contract was for an 8 hour day, it probably was in all their contracts but unofficall tea breaks had driferted in what ever that means. you being a union person then love to get tied up in the where do i stand so i look like am an archaeologist (look I have a story board in my pictures i must be an archaeologist doing archaeology) love tea breaks because you must be haveing a break from doing archaeology...your lossing the plot mate. now we find out that

your group are the only ones still doing this (to my knowledge)

but its not on topic. how much of this working five days but paid for three has been going on and how corrdinated was it across GROUPS?

[BAJR]

but its not on topic

exactly... so stay on topic... or start a new one

but its not on topic

I rest my case.

What matters to me, is this forum runs, runs smoothly, offers advice and does not become a clearing hose for rants, personal gripes and pother non constructive postings.

Play nice

Now to return to the topic... the answers are clear... contracts cannot be altered without prior consultation with employees. simples... has this happened is the question?