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12th April 2011, 05:52 PM
Fortunately there is only one such Unit, and they are always welcome to discuss returning - IF they abide by the terms and conditions of advertising (which sadly they refused to enter into discussion about - after a few attempts at communication I gave up) Thre are many smaller groups that also don't normally advertise, and also some companies that have a pool they can rely on.
http://www.archaeologists.net/profession/profiling does provide the most comprehensive guide to what was happening. I was on the BEnchmarking working party three years back now, and it ws agreed that teh disparity was around 23% behind (though up to over 45% for some posts) for comparable industries. Still no move yet. Though the crash did not help. Still BAJR did add 2% this year - putting neck on line again.
Anyway... it is all food for thought
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13th April 2011, 12:54 PM
BAJR Wrote:Fortunately there is only one such Unit, and they are always welcome to discuss returning - IF they abide by the terms and conditions of advertising (which sadly they refused to enter into discussion about - after a few attempts at communication I gave up) ..............
Actually, although I wasn't directly involved, I observed from proximity, it seemed to me it was due to a misunderstanding from both sides...... and posting of information from a confidential email on this forum which caused the rift. But I wasn't directly involved so I'll keep my mouth shut.............oops:o)
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13th April 2011, 01:11 PM
Just shows how wrong people can be. At least they are more than aware now that the misunderstanding could still be sorted. Though, while talking of pay rates, I hear that the condition of employment is still the same. so I'll keep my mouth shut..........double oops :o)
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14th April 2011, 12:52 PM
Are they?.........I've not been on site for aaaages.....will check.
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14th April 2011, 01:22 PM
I asked this before but I'll ask again... are we linking this to the new one?
"Use Your Archeological Imagination..."
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14th April 2011, 01:43 PM
Which new one ?
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14th April 2011, 01:51 PM
Uhm... gimme a sec.
"Use Your Archeological Imagination..."
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14th April 2011, 01:51 PM
"Use Your Archeological Imagination..."
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14th April 2011, 02:05 PM
I admire your efforts, but I would add a word of caution.
I tried to do something very similar to this survey (but without the pretty maps) with my 'Outwage' blog a few years back. I think at the height of that 'project' I had wage data on something like 150 companies (including most of the Irish contractors at the time). The reason I stopped updating the blog (although I have continued to collect the data) was that when the IFA and BAJR introduced the 'relative benefits' factor to their pay scales i.e do you have paid holiday, sick leave, pension, other benefits, it became virtually impossible to compare unit against unit (or like with like)....Also an increasing number of the better paid jobs were not releasing specific wage details, but were offering applicants 'personal' pay scales.
My feeling was that apart from the initial 'shock factor' of revealing how poorly paid some archaeologists were, the exercise was actually damaging some employers (and employees) who had pretty good life style/work balance even where the advertised/reported wage levels were at the lower end of the UK pay scale.....and as happiness is often relative rather than soley financially driven, I didn't want Outwage to be seen as part of the problem rather than part of the solution...
With peace and consolation hath dismist, And calm of mind all passion spent...
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14th April 2011, 07:31 PM
Mileage rates, free accom (and standard thereof)......free cakes....
