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10th September 2011, 09:59 PM
Dinosaur Wrote:Not wishing to dish other archaeological organisations (yeah, I know, promise not to say that again, will ruin my image!) but the NT is a huge landowner with hundreds of thousands of members, and hence actually have some political clout, maybe the other organisations should get together behind them, since I seriously doubt the government actually gives a fig behind closed doors (whatever they may say in public) what tiny organisations with only a couple of thousand members and absolutely no economic impact like e.g. CBA or IFA thinks....
But, as the ancient sages said "Do not despise the snake for having no horns, for who is to say it will not become a dragon?" and "So may one just man become an army"
Perhaps if all the separate groups were to combine forces under an umbrella organisation then there would be greater numbers to lobby with?
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10th September 2011, 10:07 PM
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11th September 2011, 04:09 PM
Many is fine, but someone in Whitehall probably has a list of what they regard as piddling little special interest organisations that can safely be ignored, which doubtless includes anything with 'archaeology' in the title - the NT isn't going to be one of those so it's in reality probably the most significant organisation representing the archaeological/heritage interest in the current scenario. Since the current issue relates to development, and they hold a significant percentage of the UK land-bank, they really can't be ignored by Government. Also of course their vast membership are the type of people who also are likely to be retired (losts of time for letter writing, going to meetings and generally just being a b***dy nuisance to politicians) and also quite likely to be members of their local ConLib organisations (where my parents retired to there was an almost 100% correlation, but of course I extend my apologies to all those Lab voters in their 20s elsewhere who are also members). Of course I suppose all the members of IFA/CBA/whatever could all chip in and buy a few acres?
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11th September 2011, 09:52 PM
If the heritage sites and archaeology 'belong' to everyone in 'our' country as part of 'our' History, then why don't all the "little special interest organisations" reach out to...Everyone, that is to the population at large?
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14th September 2011, 10:35 PM
Dirty Dave Lincoln Wrote:If the heritage sites and archaeology 'belong' to everyone in 'our' country as part of 'our' History, then why don't all the "little special interest organisations" reach out to...Everyone, that is to the population at large?
I was hoping after three days that those of you out there with wiser heads than mine would have commented on this idea by now-silence is a bit hard to interpret.
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15th September 2011, 01:06 AM
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But, as the ancient sages said "Do not despise the snake for having no horns, for who is to say it will not become a dragon?" and "So may one just man become an army"
I was hoping after three days that those of you out there with wiser heads than mine would have commented on this idea by now-silence is a bit hard to interpret
sages dont tell me about sages-are they realy in the same family as bay
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15th September 2011, 11:30 AM
Unitof1 Wrote:sages dont tell me about sages-are they realy in the same family as bay
bordering on genius unit
If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers
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16th September 2011, 06:23 AM
We should keep track of examples of 'news' stories that blame heritage professionals for hold-ups in the planning system.....
Latest example. Radio 5 news this morning 16.09.2011 6.10 am.
A 'news' item on why private rents are increasing month on month in some areas of the UK and as a result hitting the poorest sections of society........According to the BBC, this was due to a shortage of available properties which is due to the difficulties house builders face with the planning system. The BBC concluded, 'if more houses were being built rents would go down. There is some hope that government attempts to 'free up' the planning system will result in more houses being built although this is aim is currently being opposed by bodies such as the National Trust'.....
From which I guess the general public might conclude: 'My rent is going up, I think I will blame an archaeologist!!'
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16th September 2011, 12:09 PM
Dirty Dave Lincoln Wrote:If the heritage sites and archaeology 'belong' to everyone in 'our' country as part of 'our' History, then why don't all the "little special interest organisations" reach out to...Everyone, that is to the population at large?
Some do.
The difficulty often comes from 'interpretation' through the media industry (but not always) and its difficult reaching a wider audience without going through the media industry
Other industries have media departments that put spin on anything before its released to the wider press.
In my humble opinion most of the population is only interested in information if it is presented by a 'celeb' or if it relates to celeb gossip or sport.
Doesn't mean their heritage doesn't need protecting.
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16th September 2011, 12:59 PM
Shouldn't Planning Departments (which by and large include the county archaeological staff) be commenting on adverse planning-related stories more? Field units, who usually take all the flak, are, after all, merely putting their wishes into practice
