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8th December 2011, 07:54 PM
the invisible man Wrote:Marcus: yes, that is indeed the analogy I was attempting to draw - curator = planning/BC officer, consultant = architect, and of course contractor = contractor. This is no coincidence, the somewhat artificial structure of commercial archaeology was set up to mirror construction and hence the similarlity in terminology.
Sorry, for some reason I'd got it into my head that you were suggesting architect=building control / planner. That's entirely my mistake, I can only blame the incipient onset of senility!
You know Marcus. He once got lost in his own museum
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8th December 2011, 07:57 PM
Boxoffrogs Wrote:We've been here before...many times...and still we 'discuss' it. It will not happen until there is money in the coffers (who pays the archaefuzz?) and a will in the 'profession'. Currently nil nil me thinks!
That's exactly the point I made at the top of page 4 (though I went for 'Archaeological Sweeney' rather than the more catchy Archaeofuzz!)
You know Marcus. He once got lost in his own museum
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9th December 2011, 02:29 PM
the invisible man Wrote:Marcus: yes, that is indeed the analogy I was attempting to draw - curator = planning/BC officer, consultant = architect, and of course contractor = contractor. This is no coincidence, the somewhat artificial structure of commercial archaeology was set up to mirror construction and hence the similarlity in terminology.
Jack, I should be there or thereabouts, it's what I did before I lurched into archaeology. As I mentioned, for simplicity and the sake of this discussion and the analogies of roles I glossed over self-certification and 'privatised' building control ('approved inspectors') which was introduced in the late 90s for most classes of buildings. There is indeed a fee for Building Control, whether going down the Full Plans route or submitting a Notice or using a private bod, but not if 'self-certified' by a 'competent person'. Building Control inspects the site at certain pre-defined stages, before certain things are ciovered up - drains, dpc and so on. They are not so much 'asked', a contractor is obliged to inform them before covering up such work. Not that all this has much to do with anything...
Quality in this sense does not equate to regulation compliance, but to compliance with a contract. To flog my analogy further, Building Control (council or private!) have no remit over what (say) a brick wall or a painted surface looks like, provided it is sound and stable. Quality, as may be defined in a contract, will require rather more.
Yep...................but 'god' is in the detail.
Especially as it seems that the government seems to be pushing our industry towards similar privatised 'archaeological control'
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9th December 2011, 02:49 PM
archaeofuzz - how can it fail
If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers
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12th December 2011, 08:12 PM
P Prentice Wrote:archaeofuzz - how can it fail
Like everything else apathy and lack of funds
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12th December 2011, 08:31 PM
Unfortunately the Eurozone, Xmas and my tax return still seem to happen year on year (and of course there's London 2012 coming too), so why not Archaeofuzz?
