IFA response to credit crunch -comments

[monty]

oops...what i meant to say was surely the units charging and paying staff less are contributing to why archaeologists are paid badly !!!! ?????

[andy.bicket]

On pay:

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https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind0812&L=BRITARCH&T=0&O=D&P=88311

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http://www.archaeologists.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=346

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[Oxbeast]

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Why are archaeolgists paid badly ????!!!!!

Ease off on the exclamation marks there, you're not in The Beano.

Basically, it boils down to supply and demand. There is an oversupply of labour in the marketplace. I think that what Dr Wardle might be referring to is that there may not be that much difference in the charge out rates between a ground worker and an archaeologist. Presumably the difference is take home pay is made up of overheads and contingency? I'd be interested to read the 2006 paper to which he refers, I don't suppose its available on BAJr or anywhere else? I'm glad that the IFA is doing somethign, and would echo Windbags comments that now is a time to reform the profession, and hopefully raise standards and expectations.

[achingknees]

quote:Originally posted by drpeterwardle


One topic I think should be addressed is what happens to postX when a company client or archaeological goes bust? What obligations does a company or an individual actually have?

This is happening. We have several large PX projects that have been stalled by clients going bust. In some cases the sites are still open and will probably stay that way for many years. It will be of interest to see how these land parcels are shifted in the future. Will archaeological conditions be considered?

In others the development has gone ahead. It is annoying that this has been sanctioned/allowed by the planners even though their planning obligations have not been met.

I really feel for the PX staff, particularly the directors and supervisors who bust guts to see their fieldwork through only to see their future PX projects lost (ie at some near point, their jobs).

I expect EH will recieve a few more requests for HEEP funding, but this is a very small pot of money. Could this funding be increased in these exceptional times?

[Windbag]

I would suggest two things to archaeological units wondering about post-ex payments-
1) Credit check your potential or existing clients.
2) Ask for money up front.

[monty]

In response to Oxbeast,(i) i shall use as many exclamation marks as i choose to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(ii)the difference in pay between ground workers and archaeologists is massive - how many digging staff are on ten to fifteen pounds per hour plus accom, subs, lunch payments etc...this is a fairly standard rate for groundworkers to my knowledge.

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/406153/BAJR-Co...006-Papers


For the BAJR 06 Conference papers...



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[Kathryn Whittington]

quote:Originally posted by kevin wooldridge

Is it possible that the IFA could lobby the APAAG group of MPs and lords to at least get the plight of our industry recognised at government level (and maybe to lobby for use of the Heritage lottery fund as a source of interim funding for IFA RAOs).

This is something that was discussed at the last APPAG meeting.

[Kathryn Whittington]

We have now posted a recession plan in the news section of our website. It can be seen here:

http://www.archaeologists.net/modules/ne...toryid=348

[chiz]

thankyou for coming and posting the link.
As a freelancer, I note from your release:

to allow IfA members who have been made redundant to have an immediate reduction on their subscription fees from the next available direct debit instalment (1 February 2009) until the start of the 2009/10 subscription year (first payment starting in June 2009)

Is this able to also be applied to self-employed/freelancers who have lost all their programmed work but can't sign on for whatever reason?