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IFA membership
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Kevin,

You have some good points there. I don't exactly disagree with them, but I think I probably draw different conclusions. Looking at your points in turn:

- level of graduate entry: I would like to see the IFA campaigning for the local authorities to change this - but it is quite a big mountain to move. Might be a point to raise with the unions as well. In the meantime, the IFA have to take account of the level at which people are actually employed. The other question about this is, are we necessarily talking about graduate entry? I think on other threads you, I and Troll have all proposed (in different ways) that entry-level archaeologists need not actually be graduates, although they usually are.

- financial recognition of professional accreditation: I don't know enough about recognition of other types of membership to comment about that. However, you can't blame the IFA for the local authorities' discrimination in this way.

- flexibility within grades: good point. Perhaps we could be looking at, say, bottom of scale 2 for non-graduate entrants and higher points on the scale to recognise graduate and/or PIFA status? Again, a decision for the authorities, not the IFA.

- the Manning report: sounds very interesting, I didn't previously know about that. Could be a starting point for a campaign. Talk to the unions as well as the IFA.

- number of RAOs that are local-government based: Might be worth thinking about how many people they employ, as well as how many organisations. Quite a few of the non-local govt. organisations are very small (I know of one that has a total staff of 2). Some are quite big as well, though, so I haven't any idea of what proportion of RAO employees work for local authorities.

The logical conclusion of your argument is that the IFA should consider de-coupling the recommended minima from local authority grades and raising them. The upshot in the short term would be that all local authority units would lose their RAO status the following year. Would this be a good thing?

An alternative conclusion would be that the IFA should decide that, as a professional institution (not a union)they should stop recommending minima if they are not able to set levels they consider appropriate, and leave that aspect to the unions as well. Would that be a good thing? How effective have the unions been on this in the past?

I don't ask these questions rhetorically - I really want to know.

1man1desk

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