24th May 2010, 04:30 PM
Should not really have to as you already answered it
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again... thats the point... if everyone says.. my joining will have negligible effect it won't.. if more people said I will join... then it has more effect.. shimples
I have already discussed that with you - so thats a non starter
You join a union becuase of more than just pay and conditions... lets get this straight... people (well you dino and dirty) seemed to be convinced that union = strike/pay conditions it is so much more. it is about working together, it is about support, its about training and protection about cooperation and employees rights. Standing together and standing strong.. its about not being bullied or taken for a ride... its about creating a bridge between the companies and the employees its about making a better workplace and create a better profession where archaeology is not a dirty word... most of all its about you. We will have to lay a table, to show whats on offer but remember... you will gain if unionisation happens. And may be happy to take that gain... you won't gain if you do nothing and everyone else says... not me guv.
I thought you had a permanent job Jack... and if thats the case you are better off. Short term gain of a few quid? on long term gain where you stand a chance of gaining more. (and not just money )
The choice has to be made.. I am in a union... no excuses from me... I just did it... millions are in unions.... many worse off than you.. and you have to ask... why are they?
Quote:My reasons being from my position I feel that joining a Union will not benefit me (although it may have when I was a digger).
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Quote:I feel that my joining a union will have negligible benefit for other diggers
again... thats the point... if everyone says.. my joining will have negligible effect it won't.. if more people said I will join... then it has more effect.. shimples
Quote:I can have a much better chance of improving pay and conditions on site for people working for me through negotiations with the management
I have already discussed that with you - so thats a non starter
Quote:in the planning stagesthats does not work... :face-confused:
You join a union becuase of more than just pay and conditions... lets get this straight... people (well you dino and dirty) seemed to be convinced that union = strike/pay conditions it is so much more. it is about working together, it is about support, its about training and protection about cooperation and employees rights. Standing together and standing strong.. its about not being bullied or taken for a ride... its about creating a bridge between the companies and the employees its about making a better workplace and create a better profession where archaeology is not a dirty word... most of all its about you. We will have to lay a table, to show whats on offer but remember... you will gain if unionisation happens. And may be happy to take that gain... you won't gain if you do nothing and everyone else says... not me guv.
I thought you had a permanent job Jack... and if thats the case you are better off. Short term gain of a few quid? on long term gain where you stand a chance of gaining more. (and not just money )
The choice has to be made.. I am in a union... no excuses from me... I just did it... millions are in unions.... many worse off than you.. and you have to ask... why are they?