22nd October 2008, 03:41 PM
I hope that you are charging for it
M The 99% are applications post determination, they come with a watching brief condition disguised in the written scheme of works use of words so horribly modelled, and now to have the condition discharged they need to be accompanied by the charge.
vulpes suggests
And my point is how can I sort that out in advance or rather would it be ethical because for me to do it I would need to get to the client before they applied to the curators which I donât do at the moment? I let the clients find me to fulfil their post determination condition or if it is predetermination I ring up the curators and they say subject to the proposal it might be a watching brief. But if I was to target my advertising at potential clients before they have applied (which will generate costs to me) I would presumably also get replies from the 90% of potential planning applicants that currently the curators deal with that donât require any archaeological services. Even me ringing up the curator to discuss the proposed scheme as related to me by my potential client is a cost to me that I would have to retrieve from somewhere. This is the cross subsidised work that all curators do when they look at all the applications and filter out the ones that require archaeology (at my level). Obviously if this scheme generates lots of new work for me a bit of advertising and a few phone calls might be recouped through field work (cross subsidy) but that might be by doing unnecessary work. And if it starts that the curators expect that I would have done a site visit and have prepared some background I would probably have to have some standard upfront fee. Have they not with these fees introduced a principle, which is that archaeological conditions can be avoided prior to determination? And if as historicbuilding says they are within their rights to charge for predetermination consultation (and access to smr) am I within the creed allowed to say to ALL people that ring me Do not call the curators, This is my price to do an evaluation even if it transpires that the curators might not have had any concerns about the site or proposed scheme.
Standard for a year -they only got the report out last May 2007
M The 99% are applications post determination, they come with a watching brief condition disguised in the written scheme of works use of words so horribly modelled, and now to have the condition discharged they need to be accompanied by the charge.
vulpes suggests
Quote:quote: in a lot of cases these can be sorted out in advance, which I assume is the point of this change.
And my point is how can I sort that out in advance or rather would it be ethical because for me to do it I would need to get to the client before they applied to the curators which I donât do at the moment? I let the clients find me to fulfil their post determination condition or if it is predetermination I ring up the curators and they say subject to the proposal it might be a watching brief. But if I was to target my advertising at potential clients before they have applied (which will generate costs to me) I would presumably also get replies from the 90% of potential planning applicants that currently the curators deal with that donât require any archaeological services. Even me ringing up the curator to discuss the proposed scheme as related to me by my potential client is a cost to me that I would have to retrieve from somewhere. This is the cross subsidised work that all curators do when they look at all the applications and filter out the ones that require archaeology (at my level). Obviously if this scheme generates lots of new work for me a bit of advertising and a few phone calls might be recouped through field work (cross subsidy) but that might be by doing unnecessary work. And if it starts that the curators expect that I would have done a site visit and have prepared some background I would probably have to have some standard upfront fee. Have they not with these fees introduced a principle, which is that archaeological conditions can be avoided prior to determination? And if as historicbuilding says they are within their rights to charge for predetermination consultation (and access to smr) am I within the creed allowed to say to ALL people that ring me Do not call the curators, This is my price to do an evaluation even if it transpires that the curators might not have had any concerns about the site or proposed scheme.
Standard for a year -they only got the report out last May 2007