14th November 2008, 10:27 AM
Hal, yes, I agree, but you've got to know the basics first, or at least, as I said, have an awareness of the basics even if you go into conservation. You were talking after all about diggers. I remain to be contacted by the IFA with any detail on the NVQ so can't comment on it any more than I did on a previous post, but I hope that the developing yourself (!) bits may include some of what you are talking about.
Training in the units I have worked in (a few) has been dire, and ineffective, but then promoting people to supervise deep strat sites when they don't even know what a plan matrix is, and then asking them to train new staff isn't very clever either.
What specifically do you mean be the 'extra' stuff, do you mean for diggers, or just supervisors? Do you mean the kind of stuff i used to address with on-site talks, handouts and seminars, or more detailed study? I don't see units doing a lot more than they do unfortunately for the average grunt, its the constraint of the site boundary again.
I hope the IFA will get in touch with me so I can see how the NVQ will actually work, or that someone who is doing it joins in the topic, do you have any details on the scheme? Its rather tricky not wanting to criticise the NVQ without knowing more about it, whilst not being able to find out any more...
Training in the units I have worked in (a few) has been dire, and ineffective, but then promoting people to supervise deep strat sites when they don't even know what a plan matrix is, and then asking them to train new staff isn't very clever either.
What specifically do you mean be the 'extra' stuff, do you mean for diggers, or just supervisors? Do you mean the kind of stuff i used to address with on-site talks, handouts and seminars, or more detailed study? I don't see units doing a lot more than they do unfortunately for the average grunt, its the constraint of the site boundary again.
I hope the IFA will get in touch with me so I can see how the NVQ will actually work, or that someone who is doing it joins in the topic, do you have any details on the scheme? Its rather tricky not wanting to criticise the NVQ without knowing more about it, whilst not being able to find out any more...