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2nd November 2005, 01:37 PM
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2nd November 2005, 03:33 PM
Just to add; from my experience spot scheduling for ancient monuments is possible but problematic, the local EH inspector was warned that a hitherto unknown but nationally important site was threatend with imminent destruction. He put the legal framework in place, papers drawn up etc came down to see the site, scheduling could have been achieved from start to finish in about 2 weeks. Unfortunately One of the archaeologists on site was asked by the developer who the Inspector was and why he was visiting, and when he was told he machined out the site there and then.
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3rd November 2005, 10:05 AM
Following on from the last few posts on the subject of listing and scheduling loopholes, is it not also the case that due to HS's role in the planning process in Scotland that monuments under consideration for listing/scheduling are protected from the outset. If this is a correct assessment of the situation, then it is superior to the present set-up in England.
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3rd November 2005, 05:39 PM
just to clarify a couple of points.
Most LPAs regard demolition of buildings as an engineering opertaion and thus need a permission.
How are interior of buildings in conservation areas protected?
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4th November 2005, 10:05 PM
A related (just) issue-
there seems to be a worrying trend developing in a certain county...
seems to be a correlation between the time that developers are informed that a building survey needs to be carried out and the mysterious burning down of said building during the hours of darkness shortly thereafter....
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5th November 2005, 03:49 PM
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Curator Kid
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Re. "chainsaws" - the classic example must be the Hoover building.
The Hoover building is still there (and very nice it is too, pity about the Tescos at the back). Are you sure you don't mean the excellent Firestones building on the A4 at Brentford? The facade was demolished over a bank holiday weekend, just prior to its listing being confirmed. 
Spot on CK, thank you.[:I]. I could see the perishing thing in my mind's eye... but you know how it is with advancing age... well maybe you don't...
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15th November 2005, 10:01 PM
Alfie
It may interest you to know that EH no longer schedule nationally important archaeology. In fact according to some senior EH members current policy is not to!!
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Alfie
Just to add; from my experience spot scheduling for ancient monuments is possible but problematic, the local EH inspector was warned that a hitherto unknown but nationally important site was threatend with imminent destruction...
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16th November 2005, 09:02 AM
I've heard this too Mongoose. One wonders exactly what EH
does do half the time these days...
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16th November 2005, 10:40 AM
Quote:quote:Originally posted by mongoose
Alfie
It may interest you to know that EH no longer schedule nationally important archaeology. In fact according to some senior EH members current policy is not to!!
I was told this by EH, but they went into more detail and explained that it is more a case of there being no new major schemes of scheduling until the government sorts out what it is going to do with the two heritage designations (SM and LB). This is because there may be significant changes to how the system works and they don't want to do anything needless.
I have been told however that if I want anything scheduled as a matter of urgency, they will treat it as they normally would. It is also the case that the previous scheme of sceduling is not complete here so I can get more added to the list of possibilities; I don't know if the same applies elsewhere.
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28th November 2005, 11:41 AM
So it seems that EH are scheduling in some parts of the country. I would be grateful for any further details. The message that I have received in the north is that it is a case of "not any more thank you and good night".
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Hugh
Quote:quote:Originally posted by mongoose
Alfie
It may interest you to know that EH no longer schedule nationally important archaeology. In fact according to some senior EH members current policy is not to!!
I was told this by EH, but they went into more detail and explained that it is more a case of there being no new major schemes of scheduling until the government sorts out what it is going to do with the two heritage designations (SM and LB). This is because there may be significant changes to how the system works and they don't want to do anything needless.
I have been told however that if I want anything scheduled as a matter of urgency, they will treat it as they normally would. It is also the case that the previous scheme of sceduling is not complete here so I can get more added to the list of possibilities; I don't know if the same applies elsewhere.
Spot Listing and spot scheduling
