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15th October 2009, 07:25 PM
stick with this my hearties... I am looking at ways to merge two systems... and indeed it has a clunk factor... the secret is to go to the dashboard and there is a summary of all that is going on. the groups ar intended to link people together... while I might even turn this into rant corner... with the potential to hide names .. though you can always sign off. I will listen to you all and will do what works for the majority.
ps.. I found this by checking the dashboard.. on my mobile in croatia... was always harder for me on older forum.
stay brave.
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15th October 2009, 11:07 PM
yeah lets get back to the nitty gritty and have a 'rant corner'...............}
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16th October 2009, 10:41 AM
i'll get on it as soon as I return
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16th October 2009, 02:58 PM
Windbag,
your point about the lay-offs being focussed on junior staff is well-made and does inevitably hit profits but in the instance of the company I work for, while a brutal policy, it does make sense. This is because (and I would have thought most units would have the same set-up) the managers aren't actually trained managers but archaeologists who have climbed the slippery pole and consequently have a more diverse range of skills, being able to prepare all pre-site docs, fieldwork, post-ex, tendering etc. whereas the juniors cannot necessarily contribute during the (inevitable) lulls in work when everyone is office-based.
It's been a bit odd seeing our managers getting their hands dirty but I think the logic, however difficult to swallow, makes sense.
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16th October 2009, 04:01 PM
windbag Wrote:It's normally the junior staff that undertake the profit-making activities of a company (fieldwork, post-ex work), so if redundancies hit the workforce but leave the management intact, the company as a whole will be less efficient, less profitable and more likely to go under
Of course managers don't carry out any profit-making activities - apart from tendering for the work in the first place, producing project designs/WSI, managing the projects....
The reason managers survive is because you need a lot less of them to carry out their, still essential and profit making, roles.
Still can't write the words 'profit-making' in an archaeological context without crying with laughter, and then just crying!
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16th October 2009, 04:12 PM
Hi Chaps
A glimmer of hope perhaps! I'm seeing many, many more requests for initial comments of very large scale housing and infrastructure projects. In fact I'm busier now then ever before. I really do expect development to pick up very quickly as my area is seeing a reasonably rapid growth. It may be a regional trend but it is a very good sign.
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16th October 2009, 04:15 PM
Hi again
Not happy about the way my avatar has been scalped!!:face-huh:
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18th October 2009, 03:13 PM
Steven... your worried that your avatar appears to have been scapled...i'ed be more more worried that you appear to be naked and very almost as ugly as me }
19th October 2009, 02:25 PM
Thanks for that Steven, it's nice to get a bit of good news. Hopefully we'll be seeing more than just 4 jobs being advertised on BAJR.
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19th October 2009, 05:55 PM
BigPicture Wrote:It's been a bit odd seeing our managers getting their hands dirty but I think the logic, however difficult to swallow, makes sense.
Absolutely- I'm pleased to hear that your managers are getting their hands dirty, in the absence of more junior field staff. I take it they've taken a cut in pay to reflect their demotion?
My point isn't really aimed at archaeological units specifically, but on any private company. So long as the managers know how/remember how/are prepared to undertake the junior positions' responsibilities then there should be no loss of efficiency, but just because someone could bucket out a feature and hoe back a site 10 years ago doesn't mean they can today. Similarly, the average 25 year old watching brief archaeologist's willingness to travel and spend extended amounts of time away from home is likely to be higher than the same individual 15 years later.
RedEarth Wrote:The reason managers survive is because you need a lot less of them to carry out their, still essential and profit making, roles.
And also because they are the decision-makers. I suspect most companies tend to bin the decision-makers last.
?He who seeks vengeance must dig two graves: one for his enemy and one for himself?
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