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28th January 2011, 12:51 PM
troll Wrote:I have to concede that the Prog has raised the profile of the industry in the eyes of an interested public but not always in a way that is positive
i am constantly amazed by the reception i get on site since TT has been on the air; i remember getting messed about all day on WBs by contractors refusing to cooperate, and that was from the chief engineer down
TT has improved the profile of the profession.
It is time that TT used the position it has to talk about professional archaeology; however, given its very close relationship with Wessex Archaeology I suspect that it cannot.
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28th January 2011, 03:10 PM
gwyl Wrote:i am constantly amazed by the reception i get on site since TT has been on the air; i remember getting messed about all day on WBs by contractors refusing to cooperate, and that was from the chief engineer down
TT has improved the profile of the profession.
It is time that TT used the position it has to talk about professional archaeology; however, given its very close relationship with Wessex Archaeology I suspect that it cannot.
Good point. Where have we seen this before? Blair/Cameron+Murdoch. TT will not be a crusader for archaeology for various reasons. This is Channel 4! The idealism (if it had any) of the new channel back in the 80s has long since past. It's only just above 'Dirty' Desmond's Channel 5 (numerically at least). TT has to work with the units and they would be very upset if TT went 'all political' on them. In an ideal world (mine) it would be great to see TT looking at the job in a more critical way so as to build on the public profile and support built up over nearly 20 years and help affect change for the better for the 'poor bloody infantry'.
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28th January 2011, 04:19 PM
In fairness, time team did two specials (that I can remember) where they followed the fortunes of commercial units undertaking long term excavations. ‘The Island of the Eels’, and ‘The Big Dig in Canterbury’.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-...episode-15
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsit...rbury.html
Stripy jumpers and West Country accents took a back seat in favour of shadowing commercial diggers to find out what happens when we haven’t got just three days to find out. There was a telling sequence where the cameras visited a squalid dig house, then followed up with a visit to the unit directors house, only to discover that he too was living in a derelict shell. He presented this as kind of honest poverty; a counter-cultural lifestyle choice along the lines that he was so committed to the past that everyday concerns like keeping a roof over his head didn’t matter.
It was a total PR disaster for everyone working in the field, and a clear signal to the viewers (at least in 2001) that archaeology doesn’t belong at the grown-ups table. Perhaps putting ‘real world’ archaeology into a TV petri dish might actually be counter productive…
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28th January 2011, 05:15 PM
That did strike me as normalising the unacceptable when it was first shown and I wasn't anything to do with archaeology at the time. Hopefully some other members of the public were suitably appalled as well.
Wouldn't mind a bit more "real world" creeping into TT. I have the devil's own job trying to explain to my family why I need to spend a whole month digging in one place, then weeks afterwards scrubbing bits of pot, when it can all clearly be done and dusted in three days flat.
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28th January 2011, 08:44 PM
Just seen this on the Museums Job Desk (Uni of Leicester)...
Time Team are currently in production for their 19th series and are looking to make some changes to the on screen team. We are looking for a FEMALE co- host, someone who ideally has experience in presenting archaeology, history or anthropology programming. It would also be great to hear about presenters with a proven passion for these subjects, an academic background or otherwise.This person does not have to be overly experienced or knowledgeable as we have plenty of expertise within the existing on and off- screen team, however intelligence, natural curiosity and a passion for Archaeology is a must! Tony Robinson will continue to be the Series Presenter, introduce the programmes and voice them.
Just wondering... are they allowed to be that specific?
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28th January 2011, 09:37 PM
What's the betting who ever they pick will be well under 40 and pleasing on the eye }
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29th January 2011, 10:33 AM
Damn... failed on both counts
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29th January 2011, 10:49 AM
To answer destroyingangels original question it is perfectly legal to positive discriminate in job adverts if it is seen as giving oportunities to under represented groups in the work force. So personally I would be more impressed if they asked for someone over forty and they recruited some one who was not obviously eye candy :face-stir
Yes I know the experts on Time Team are there for their knowledge not their looks). We could do with more television presenters who actually represent the demographic they are presenting to.
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29th January 2011, 07:43 PM
The cynic in me says that when adverts start getting very specific it normally means they know who is going to get the job!:face-stir:
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30th January 2011, 10:24 AM
Sack the the lot of them and start from scratch