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29th April 2010, 04:29 PM
apart from replaceing member for archaeologists (when did they do that/whoes baby was it?)
I thought I would analysis the changes to the code since 1998 as I have a paper copy locked away so that they cant change it
1 changed
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
notes changed
1.5
1.6 changed
notes removed
1.7 new
notes with new note
1.8 was 1.7
1.9 was deleted but is now what was 1.8 this is my favourite of all time
1.10
notes
1.11
1.12 changed
notes
1.13
1.14 new
2
2.1
2.2
notes
2.3
3
3.1
3.2
3.3
3.4
3.5
3.6
4
4.1
4.2
4.3
4.4
4.5
4.6
4.7
5
5.1
5.2
5.3
5.4
5.5
5.6
5.7
5.8 new
They seem to run out of wind for change after the first principle. Either the first principle was rubbish or nobody can be bothered after trying to sort the first priciple rules out to read much further
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30th April 2010, 12:34 PM
Code for self-employed field archaeologists
1st Principle
Archaeology is produced by field archaeologists.
Rule
1.1 Field Archaeology is the observation produced by the physical examination of the world.
1.2 Field Archaeology is the process of producing archaeological observations
1.3 The archive is a product of field archaeology
1.4 The archive includes any reports or documents that relate to the observations
2nd Principle
Archaeology is owned.
Rule
2.1 An archaeologists holds copyright on their observations.
2.2 An archaeologists shall recognise the copyright of all other archaeologists
2.3 The landowner owns any potential archaeology on their land
2.4 Any archaeologist undertaking field archaeology must first secure the permission of the landowner and others with rights to the ownership of the land
2.5 An archaeologist may sell, lease, lend, their observations.
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30th April 2010, 01:55 PM
I know I'm going to regret this............. Principle 1 - no it isn't! It's a bit like the thing about a tree falling down in a jungle when there's no-one there to hear it. Of oucrse archaeology is not "produced" by archaeologists, whether field, harvest or dor! (I'm not sure why there is this emphasis on "field").
I might start on the rest later, if I have the will............. or BAJRites could take one each? Or not. My god I'm talking like him now...................
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30th April 2010, 02:03 PM
who prduces it then?
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30th April 2010, 02:05 PM
Archaeology is produced by the activities of people in the past. Or indeed the present. And it will be produced in the future. No mention of 'field' required. I agree that archaeologists should secure access, but this is required already. To return to the point of the thread, I'm not sure this would even apply to rallies unless people declare at the outset that their intention is to flog everything. probably most of it ends up in peoples private collections.
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30th April 2010, 02:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 30th April 2010, 02:23 PM by Unitof1.)
Quote:Members may be employed by or contract with, or participate in, projects approved by the Portable Antiquities Scheme.
If you were to have a code for FIELD archaeologists would it start with some principle called ethics and resonable behavior and by rule 1.7 be about (or not wooo)some cheap antiquities scheme which is likely to go bust at any time
and since when is the PAS an approval scheme.
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Archaeology is produced by the activities of people in the past
What?
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30th April 2010, 03:22 PM
Quote:'m not sure this would even apply to rallies unless people declare at the outset that their intention is to flog everything. probably most of it ends up in peoples private collections.
Anyone care to test it out
Would it be just one person selling on Ebay, or a percentage? or er.. what? and as I keep saying... what happens in Scotland... without the PAS seal of approval? :face-thinks:
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30th April 2010, 04:32 PM
Or anywhere outside England - a member does not have to be practising in the UK, or be British, to be bound by the Code. However, I'm not seeing the particular problem with the Note. It doesn't say "must" or "shall", it says "may". This means that it is permissible, not compulsory.
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30th April 2010, 07:31 PM
Quote:[SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=2]1.7 A member shall not knowingly be employed by, or contract with, an individual or entity whose purpose is the sale of items excavated and/or recovered from archaeological contexts and where such sale may lead to the irretrievable dispersal of the physical and/or intellectual archive, or where such sale may result in an undispersed archive to which public access is routinely denied.
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So is it possible to take part in a project not approved by PAS (as someone has said, what does this approval consist of? ) but still is within the code 1.7 - and can one get invovled with a rally where the
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=2]individual or entity is not involved in the [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=1] [SIZE=2]sale of items excavated and/or recovered from archaeological contexts BUT where some people involved in the event may do? Is it the sole purpose.. in which case we are talking purely about ...shall we say... er... salvage operations? such as say... sunken treasure? I would like to have clarification... as it is not clear whether my invovlement in recording hundreds of artefacts and producing a 150 page report and passing all information and digital date to the HER with the aid of PAS would contravene the code... would I have been guilty ??
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30th April 2010, 10:12 PM
Yep. If all the proceeds of the sale of the artefacts went to the landowner and he paid the metal detectorists for their labour and they all chipped in for your 'expenses', for example.