Contract lengths

[Unitof1]

I expect that these poor workers were working overtime and weekends and not drinking it away and that they thought that this job was a good pensionable career move and that all the other ground workers on the site were not laid off to enjoy Christmas

<< Edited for AUP reasons sorry - BAJR Host>>


DTi in charge of the archaeology

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/categor...Title=GC21

DTi in charge of employment law (might even be on the same corridor)
http://www.dti.gov.uk/about/index.html

Man in charge of Department

darlinga@parliament.uk

Also to be found at

22A Rutland Square
Edinburgh
EH1 2BB

near to the world of Mr Hosty

surely this is serendipity

[Pipeliner]

Hi Unit of 1

Yes, assuming that I am correct about the location of Trowelfodders recent work place, << Edited for AUP reasons sorry - BAJR Host>>

[tom wilson]

quote:Originally posted by Unitof1

I expect that these poor workers were working overtime and weekends and not drinking it away and that they thought that this job was a good pensionable career move and that all the other ground workers on the site were not laid off to enjoy Christmas

Unitof1, what are you on about?


Furthermore, what do environmental impact assessments have to do with digger jobs?
Why have you supplied a link to a magazine that 'relate(s) to Gas Shippers and Electricity Generating Licences'?

'Have a good plan, execute it violently, do it today'.
General MacArthur

[Unitof1]

...well pipelines are outside the normal local development controls exercised by your good old local authority that you would have with your standard Town and Country Planning Act/PeepeeG type work. Pipelines are stitched up by a thing called the Public Gas Transporter Pipe-line Works (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 1999 which behind it has compulsory purchase powers encased in Gas Act 1995 which followed the Gas Act 1986. If you go through the references to the Gas licences you will find the public announcements for the six week period in which the you my friend havethe only opportunity that you will ever have to make a representation to (against) the EIA for the construction of a new pipeline (you will be writing to a faceless bureaucrat working on behalf of the Secretary of State- you can say things like I hope the archaeology is not trashed and that food parcels are sent to the diggers on such and such a pipeline-they will laugh and say that English Heritage has said everything is ok). By the time of this announcement (which is put on the gazette site and in a very local paper) the pipeline world have stitched up all the landowners on the pipeline route with the treat of compulsory purchase to sign over their rights (wayleave rights) to the strip of land for the period of the construction to a obscure somebody ( I am not sure who as this is a confidential document between the landowner and somebody in the pipeline world- it might be the engineering contractor or the national gas transporter or some agent( and why it might concern is that it is a document that I think relates to IFA, section 7, Code of approved practice for the regulation of contractual arrangements in field archaeology which is about as close as the IFA get to giving a monkeys about who owns the archaeology and the archaeologists responsibilities and it would appear that it is for archiving purposes, as in are the archaeologists employed by the same people that have control over these murky rights -sorry where was I -Wayleave agreements, all I know is that the NFU and the CLA think that they are wonderful as they agreed the set up with the gas transporters back in the mists of time -anyway the landowner retains ownership of any rocks and things (yes it mentions rocks ) but is rather vague about the archaeology ....which is about as relevant to these peoples Christmas experience I suppose as a brick through darlings window but it is part of the bigger picture and possibly something that they should have considered as to why things are the way they would seem to be......now for employment law as you might know I an into self employment in archaeology based on copyright law –I have yet to plough through http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/independen..._index.cfm but the nights are long

[tom wilson]

...ah...pipelines, is it (to use an appropriate colloqialism)...

<the mist clears across the hillsides>

Now I know what you're on about, although there's more than one project (and unit) the original poster could be referring to. To get back to that original, general point, is there anything we/BAJR can do about it?
1) David could add something to his list of 'Things to Make Advertisers Do As Soon As They'll Put Up With It'.
2) We could put together some kind of 'Diggers: Know Your Employment Rights' document, possibly with the help of that nice person at the Job Centre.

'Have a good plan, execute it violently, do it today'.
General MacArthur

[drpeterwardle]

Unitof1 said:

"well pipelines are outside the normal local development controls"

This is incorrect. Many pipelines are within the normal procedures.

Work by stat. undertakers is how ever very different. It is however very far from a complete stich up.

Peter

[BAJR Host]

True... I am dealing with two as we speak.

"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu

[BAJR Host]

And Tom.... if you could pop along to the BAJR Documents and Guides section... have a look at Diggers know your employment status... and think of extra sections to add... (for both employer and employee... to ensure both know their rights... and wrongs!

"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu

[kevin wooldridge]

quote:Originally posted by drpeterwardle
...my understanding is that the term "statutory holidays" currently means the 20 day holidays people are entitled to by law. This is not to be confused with "public holidays which are days such as Christmas Day. Being allowed to take public holidays off is a matter for individual contracts as is being given public holidays as extra paid leave.

However, where the Fixed Term Employees Regulations (Prevention Of Less Favourable Treatment) Regulations 2002 apply a worker on a fixed term contract has the right to be treated equally to other employees in the company. I understand this to mean that if paid bank holidays are granted to 'regular' employees, then fixed term contract staff are entitled to the same.

We have been over this before on BAJR. I well remember one of my mails getting censored, when I was critical of a BAJR advertiser who stated on the open forum that they pursued a policy of granting lesser employement benefits to fixed term staff than to 'regular' employees.

You are entitled under the FTER legislation to a statement in writing of your employment rights, providing that you are employed for 1 month or longer (although strangely your employer has up to 8 weeks in which to provide it). You are also entitled to a written explanation of why you have been excluded from an employment benefit (such as paid Bank Holidays) if that benefit is extended to other employees. The written reasons for your exclusion from an employee beefit can form the basis for an Industrial Tribunal case, where the employer can be asked to justify the grounds for an exclusion.

[drpeterwardle]

I am not sure how kevin wooldridge post is relevant to my post.

The current Fixed Term Employees Regulations (Prevention Of Less Favourable Treatment) Regulations 2002 mean the same contractual arrangements apply to all. I was clarifying the common mis-use of the phrase stat holidays or bank holidays.

Peter Wardle