CBA Community Archaeology Report

[BAJR]

fiddlesticks

anyhoo your original sentiment was erroneous

[Comarch]

Now, that edit really good's up the meaning of my original sentiment you muddy funster!

"Good's up". Is this how young people talk these days? Site reports must need translation for those over 40. Hopefully the written word is more sacrosanct.

[Unitof1]

CA is cheap and irresponsible ego massaging and defiantly undermines professional jobs in archaeology every single time it is funded and it is funded constantly by bodies that take authority away from the profession and we let them to our detriment. But I know that if I name any examples of projects I will be castigated particularly on this forum but there has been a suggestion in this thread that CA does no harm to the professionals. I wonder if some of these schemes could be named for some analysis?

[RedEarth]

"Good's up". Is this how young people talk these days? Site reports must need translation for those over 40. Hopefully the written word is more sacrosanct.

No, I was simply replacing the word 'f*ck* with the word 'good'. Sounded better in my head. Thanks for suggesting that I am a young person though...

[Dinosaur]

A specialist report I was editing on Friday used 'butt-battering' as a technical phrase, I kid you not! - standards are definitely slipping... :0

[BAJR]

WEll Unit... I would suggest
a) people check with me first..

Personally I think you will be hard pressed to come up with the goods that somehow CA is costing jobs... indeed in misses the point so badly that it lands somewhere in the next field.

b) think about what you say

[Comarch]

No, I was simply replacing the word 'f*ck* with the word 'good'. Sounded better in my head. Thanks for suggesting that I am a young person though...

Oh. Sorry.

[Comarch]

CA is cheap and irresponsible ego massaging and defiantly undermines professional jobs in archaeology every single time it is funded and it is funded constantly by bodies that take authority away from the profession and we let them to our detriment. But I know that if I name any examples of projects I will be castigated particularly on this forum but there has been a suggestion in this thread that CA does no harm to the professionals. I wonder if some of these schemes could be named for some analysis?

Hmmm. Always good to let the bile out once in a while. I think this type of comment underlines my theory that archaeologists in the field are very insecure, and quite rightly so in a lot of cases. Low pay, short contracts and thus having to live like permanent students, all feed into the feeling of being 'got at'. I was the same, but had the advantage that my partner had a proper job. I believe that time will show that digging jobs are not threatened by CA to any great extent. Threats to jobs should be seen to be coming from the economic situation first and foremost - no building work no rescue archaeology! (the major supply of work for diggers.) The way diggers can be taken on and thrown out with a weeks notice. The way archaeology is now a business not a service (ohh, a little bit of politics there). The lack of union muscle and thus a united front for diggers. Dodgy/amateur management - builders laugh at how incompetent/amateurish archaeology managers are (no training there either). Cowboy organisations (there are some you know). You name any dodgy CA project and I could name a dodgy unit, but won't of course. Slag of CA, but if you do it to a unit you're blackballed.
There are plenty of projects to be found on the Community Archaeology Forum website, but these are not necessarily representative of the whole. This subject is too varied.

[Unitof1]

I don?t remember saying anything about dodgy projects and as for dodgy units I have no problem pointing them out. Possibly you are highlighting the fact that a lot of dodgy CA projects have dodgy units involved as well. I still though struggle to pin down what a CA project is

Have found this CBA list, with which do you recommend we should start our analysis of the innocent

Alverstone
AncientCwmbranSociety
AngleseyRockArtProject
ArchaeologyandtheArtsinCountyDurham
BacasEducation
BadseySocietyEnclosureMapProject
BexleyArchaeologicalGroup
BinghamHeritage
Brislington
BroughtonProject
CHarterhouseEnvironsResearchTeam
CaerAlynArchaeologicalandHeritageProject
CaerleonLegionaryFortress
CawoodCastleGarthProject
ChessValleyArchaeologicalandHistoricalSociety
ChrysalisKat
ClaspProject
CommunityArchaeologySupportOfficer
CoventryHEP
DerwentArchaeology
DiscoverHighAshurst
DunstableVictorianHousing
DyffrynCrawnonProject
EastBridgfordNottinghamshire
FlyingArchaeologist
FortressScotland
Hatch
HatchFurlongCommunityExcavation
HeritageWrittle
IngleboroughArchaeologyGroup
KingsburyHighSchool
KnightsTemplarPreceptoryCopmanthorpe
LandSkip
LifeatFiftySeven
LocalPeople
MaritimeMarine
MellorArchaeologicalTrust
MeneageArchaeologyGroup
MersthamCommunityArchaeologyProject
MonkBretton
NorfolksCoastalHeritage
NorthDufffieldConservationandHistory
NorthofScotlandArchaeologicalSociety
NortonCommunityArchaeologyProject
PrescotStreet
PrestonCommunityArchaeologyProject
QuarleyDownAncientEnvironsProject
RamHill
RoseoftheShires
RoytonLivesThroughTheAges
ShorneWoods
SolihullArchaeologicalGroup
SouthCadburyEnvironsProject
SouthSomersetArchaeologicalResearchGroup
StNewlynEast
StantonontheWolds
StudfoldCommunityNatureProject
SudbrookeRomanVilla
Surrey
TemplatePages
TheHadrianicFrontierResearchOutlineRiverEskToRiverEhenCumbria
TheThamesDiscoveryProgramme
UnstArchaeologyGroup
WAGScreenProject
WalthamCross
WestLothianAerialArchaeology
WestburySociety
WhitehallVilla
WilmslowCommunityArchaeology
WokingPalaceCommunityExcavation
WortleyHeritage
npa2008

[BAJR]

Unit of 1 is indeed being typically provocative... willing to display a level of deliberate misunderstanding that one hopes is an act. For if it is not... then good grief... start with the man in the mirror.

Slagging off CA excellent... what a good display of fracturing any support. There are bad local groups and good ones... the bad ones? why are they 'bad' and rather than stand pointing and laughing... why not think of a positive way forward. indeed to return to the topic .. :face-topic: (you remember) the report talks heavily about what skills are missing, what are required etc.. and how better to join the pro to the am. After all, I becasme pro because I had the chance from the am... now I return the favour, and am more and more involved.. allowing new people to learn... a circle... that has in many places been broken. The report.. helps to under5stand the baseline .. laugh if you wish, but think about who you are laughing at?