IfA - A Chartered Institute

[Oxbeast]

You can just put him on your 'ignore' list so his posts don't come up, vulpes. I don't think I've missed much in this discussion for having missed them out.

[Dinosaur]

Think he was, somewhere in there, trying to make the point that 90% of the managers, specialists, curators etc etc work in posts that only exist on the backs of the digging/fieldwork stratum of the profession, making them really quite important? If he was then I agree with him, if he wasn't then I'll make the point anyway :face-approve:

[vulpes]

Strange Dino, as from where I'm sitting, if I wasn't in post barely any archaeological work would happen in the council area I work in. Perhaps the relationship is more symbiotic than parasitic. :face-approve:

If it's parasitic as Unit believes, I'm not clear who's riding on whose back? But anyway I'm quite clear from your comments generally that you seem to regard most of the rest of the profession as pointless, a hindrance, or the competition. The main problems with curatorial services are a lack of statutory recognition and under-resourcing, any other difficulties stem from these facts.

[Unitof1]

Vulpes I apologise that I did not pick up on your example of the pharmacy industry trying to separate out a regulatory body, which I interpret as a suggestion that archaeological curation should be separate. But it seems to me that the practitioners still need only be regulated by their codes of conduct. I don’t know why the pharmasits are trying to separate-the wiki suggests that the government is trying to enforce it and governments come and go but possibly these apparent professions should never have been under the same charter which is what I suggest for field archaeologists. It makes no sense why there should be curators trying to operate under codes designed around field work. Maybe you need algao to affect some association/charter?

As for the necessity of your curatorial position as you know my argument is that curation would kick in through heritage statements as requested though PPS to accompany all planning applications and would relieve you of the necessity to make unsubstantiated adjudications. Out of interest has a curator ever been found short of the codes?

As for grumpy beast the poll has put me into the 4% against the 85% for, but it is well known that the ifa does all it can to encourage discussion on the bajr forum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Archaeologists

[SIZE=3]There are also frequent references to the IfA on BAJR Forum,[6] where the workings of the IfA are challenged. This has often resulted in dialogue and has been beneficial in removing the image of the IfA being a "hidden organisation" from the contracting archaeologist. In recent years the IfA has done much to address these criticisms, improving its disciplinary and complaints procedures and committing significant resources to dealing with allegations of misconduct and complaints against members and Registered Organisations.
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It turns out that contracting archaeologists want more disiplinary and complaints procedures?

who writes this rubbish

[kevin wooldridge]

who writes this rubbish

Medice, cura te ipsum !!

[Dinosaur]

Strange Dino, as from where I'm sitting, if I wasn't in post barely any archaeological work would happen in the council area I work in. Perhaps the relationship is more symbiotic than parasitic.....

Chicken and egg? But which is the chicken and which the egg? No one digging, no one to regulate :face-thinks:

[kevin wooldridge]

'No one digging - no one to regulate'.....but how about the scenario where if there is no-one to apply planning conditions regarding archaeological access, no archaeological access is given.

Seems pretty clear to me which chicken is responsible for that golden egg......

[Madweasels]

Hey Kevin, we already have a a Royal Institute - http://www.royalarchaeolinst.org/. The Queen is their patron. Another one might be a bit confusing ...

[Unitof1]

bloody bleeding spot on madweasel -1844

cura te ipsum- dam it, I always said that this would be used against me

[vulpes]

If only I could see Unit of 1's posts I'd be able to comment