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3rd November 2010, 02:19 PM
Dinosaur Wrote:Most big construction firms have absolutely no idea what the h*** IFA is,
....but they would be able to make assumptions if the IFA were a 'proper' chartered institution.....is that not the piont of seeking the royal chartered status? -
i dont know what happens under the bonnet of my car or what the hell the mechanic has done to it...but a look for signifiers that seem to suggest to me that the mechanic i choose is reputable.....
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3rd November 2010, 02:43 PM
why would you want a reputable archaeologist?
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3rd November 2010, 03:00 PM
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Dinosaur Wrote:Most big construction firms have absolutely no idea what the h*** IFA is, so no, I wouldn't include that amongst useful things to have on a company CV. Membership of organisations they've heard of like the IEMA is far more likely to impress. The trough that archaeological companies are by-and-large trying to feed out of is not an archaeological one, so learning to operate in the big bad non-archaeological world where we are just another bunch of peripheral subcontractors might be a good idea? :face-stir:
I would be happy to be a member of IEMA if they allowed archaeologists to join. Much of their code of conduct and organisation is on the same lines as the IfA and fees are comparable. Maybe that might be a way forward for the IfA given that membership (or at least membership reciepts) is likely to dwindle in the coming years. Amalgamate with another larger professional association....and if as you say Dinosaur it will raise our profile in the construction industry it is worth considering....it might also serve, by placing archaeology in a wider 'environmental science' context, to deflect some of the criticism oft levelled at the IfA by those who think it and its senior members are self-serving....
...plus of course IEMA is already chartered and amalgamation would therefore save the IfA the costs of following that path as a stand-alone professional Institute
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3rd November 2010, 06:27 PM
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Today's announcement on the proposed rise in English university student tuition fees to at least ?6000 and maybe as much as ?9000 from 2012 is likely to have some effect on the numbers of students pursuing archaeology as an academic discipline and may perhaps lead to fewer university places in the subject. Anyone care to venture/speculate where this might be leading....?
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3rd November 2010, 06:55 PM
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200 Job losses announced at English Heritage on Monday
Today
Quote:English university student tuition fees to at least ?6000 and maybe as much as ?9000 from 2012
Has anyone actually got any good news?
a job created... a tender won... funding to research something that has always fascinated them for a PHD...
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3rd November 2010, 07:47 PM
Shouldn't affect archaeologists-you don't have to start paying it back till your earning 21K....... (such a cynic)
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3rd November 2010, 07:54 PM
Digger Wrote:Shouldn't affect archaeologists-you don't have to start paying it back till your earning 21K....... (such a cynic)
i suspect that it'll be back to the few with degrees (from a limited pool, as most departments will have closed...) running sites and the great unwashed from MSC-type schemes digging - regardless of skill-set - forgive my own cynicism
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3rd November 2010, 08:02 PM
kevin wooldridge Wrote:Today's announcement on the proposed rise in English university student tuition fees to at least ?6000 and maybe as much as ?9000 from 2012 is likely to have some effect on the numbers of students pursuing archaeology as an academic discipline and may perhaps lead to fewer university places in the subject. Anyone care to venture/speculate where this might be leading....?
...a lot more unemployed archaeology graduates thinking they should have done that business studies course instead?
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3rd November 2010, 08:21 PM
gwyl Wrote:i suspect that it'll be back to the few with degrees (from a limited pool, as most departments will have closed...) running sites and the great unwashed from MSC-type schemes digging - regardless of skill-set - forgive my own cynicism
Nothing to forgive. Will just rub my crystal ball(s). Ahh, it is now clear. I see the same olds at the top, the few university educated running the site, and the NVQ's and ' the gaining experience' at the bottom'. Damn gwyl. I don't think we're being cynical after all.
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3rd November 2010, 08:51 PM
Aren't most bright young diggers these days ones who've spent 3 (or often more) years at uni learning nothing whatsoever relevant? That's all we ever seem to get! People who've spent that time actually learning on the job are much preferred, at least in my book. But then, IFA don't like that... :face-stir:
