Current job advert

[Medway Blue]

I must admit being slightly concerned that a current job advert rates a Project Officer as Grade 2 or Grade 3? Surely something amiss here?

[RedEarth]

I must admit being slightly concerned that a current job advert rates a Project Officer as Grade 2 or Grade 3? Surely something amiss here?

There seem to be two adverts listing 'project officer' but within BAJR grades starting well below that level, not to mention an 'osteoarchaeologist' with a grade ranging from junior supervisor upwards. What is going on? Isn't that a slight case of mis-selling? Wouldn't it be better worded with some range in the job title because a Grade 2 project officer isn't a project officer? Same company in all cases too... a concidence I'm sure!

[Medway Blue]

Coincidence RedEarth....? Okay, let go with that ;-)

[Dinosaur]

I must admit being slightly concerned that a current job advert rates a Project Officer as Grade 2 or Grade 3? Surely something amiss here?

That's awful!!!! !

AUP prevents me from recalling working for any organisation in that area back in the 80s that was heavily into shafting its workforce....

[BAJR]

The name is the name... they could be grand high god beings of Ning... it is what you do that matters.

I long gave up trying to standardise job titles.. So one persons Project officer is anothers project archaeologist.. is anothers Senior Archaeologist is anothers... etc you get the drift... and some people call what I would call an archaeologist these names for what ever reason. Its not you are called, its what you do. So hope you ensure you read the BAJR Grades document. AND ensure that the job description meets it -- Don't do more than that... otherwise you should be paid more.

[Boxoffrogs]

isnt that called unionisation BAJR? Im happy to march to the barriers waving a red flag, but until we get a UK wide single representative body (IfA anybody) we are all stuffed in this 'profession' !

[overseas]

Mmm. Not sure I'm in agreement with leaving it to the individual, as bajr administrator suggests. Someone will always go for the job : someone who needs it, or is looking for up-grading experience. And once you have the job, you will automatically fulfil its requirements, otherwise you cant function at work. I dont know what current bajr policy is on acceptance/refusal of adverts, but perhaps Bajr might refuse to advertise jobs where the title and the pay scale clearly do not seem to correspond? It does nt have to generate tons more work for the admin : just have a standard reply for such cases, inviting a justified response from the advertiser - at least keep them on their toes. Altho I admit that titles are difficult to penetrate, but perhaps PO, or osteoarchaeologist is not so hard:-)

[Oxbeast]

Actually, I totally sympathise with david on this. The advert offers a wide range of pay depending on experience. Also, 'Project Officer' doesn't even mean anything. We all work on projects, and officer just means 'has a job'.

[Jack]

Hmmmm I would disagree OxBeast
In my understanding, Project officer, Project manager etc are job titles that came from the construction industry? Hence they have imbedded meaning.

Archaeologists changed their job titles to be more in line with this? I could be wrong though.

A Project officer should be someone who is capable of RUNNING more than one small project at a time, or be responsible for a large project (pipeline) with several sites running at once and several supervisors under them.

Anyone who calls themselves a project officer and isn't capable of doing this will get an awful shock one day

[overseas]

Well, if that's the state of play, the situation is already far too far gone : a project officer should be site directing and/or project managing (although obviously, the latter, should be a project manager). It is too easy to downgrade the pay scales by fudging the boundaries.