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31st August 2011, 08:24 PM
With all the people whose work is connected to archaeology and heritage it would be interesting to know what percentage are actually members of IFA/AAIs, similarly how many companies are registered, or not.
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1st September 2011, 08:22 AM
I would be uncomfortable supporting an oligarchical society like the IfA taking control of our industry and our heritage.
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1st September 2011, 09:23 AM
Jack Wrote:I would be uncomfortable supporting an oligarchical society like the IfA taking control of our industry and our heritage.
You and quite a few folks-so, either they need to replace their PR rep' or we need thinking other than 'their way or our way'-something that involves everyone?
I can just about hear the shouts 'he's a radical' or screams of 'heresy'
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1st September 2011, 11:09 AM
the invisible man Wrote:Exactly why is the current IfA not the organization to take the profession (if profession it be) down the chartered route, I wonder? Does this mean that the IfA needs some kind of reform, or is a completely new body proposed? I'm not totally clear what the point of that would be.
as do i. if people think another organisation could do better i am willing to bet it would still be run by the same individuals on the same agenda because they are the only ones who get off their arses to do anything.
If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers
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1st September 2011, 12:30 PM
All the IfA needs to do to suit the role is to change their constitution and vote on issues rather than vote to elect an elite who decide what your money is used for.
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1st September 2011, 12:42 PM
There are a lot of people either as individuals or members of other Archaeological organisations who are getting "up off their arses" and doing things. For a variety of reasons the IFA have got the backs up of many field archaeologists and as of yet I do not see them addressing this. To reiterate someoneelse's question how many " archaeologists" belong to the IFA and of those who do, is it because they feel they have to belong to get on professionally or do they truly believe in it's current structure and objectives?
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1st September 2011, 01:54 PM
Wax Wrote:There are a lot of people either as individuals or members of other Archaeological organisations who are getting "up off their arses" and doing things. For a variety of reasons the IFA have got the backs up of many field archaeologists and as of yet I do not see them addressing this. To reiterate someoneelse's question how many " archaeologists" belong to the IFA and of those who do, is it because they feel they have to belong to get on professionally or do they truly believe in it's current structure and objectives?
there may well be some getting off their arses but they have yet to form an organisation with mass support that will improve the way archaeology is pracised or the pay professionals think they deserve. the ifa may well be flawed but it wont get fixed until enough join it to change it for the better - and there is nothing else
If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers
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2nd September 2011, 04:25 PM
P Prentice Wrote:there may well be some getting off their arses but they have yet to form an organisation with mass support that will improve the way archaeology is pracised or the pay professionals think they deserve. the ifa may well be flawed but it wont get fixed until enough join it to change it for the better - and there is nothing else
But how to persuade the uncommitted to join? Just look at this forum as an example: how many people are members, and how many are ACTIVE members? there's a big discrepancy in the numbers!
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5th September 2011, 01:45 PM
Joining the IfA won't enable you (or anyone) to change it. Look at their constitution.
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5th September 2011, 09:20 PM
IfA members can change the organisation by: electing Council members who determine strategy and policy; voting on proposed amendments to corporate documents at AGMs, participitaing in Special Interest Group activities and committees; standing as Council and committee members, and by proposing amendments to the constitution.