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Pay is low - But a jobs a job I would accept it
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Any pay is fine for what we do
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I would be happy to do it for nothing
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Pay and Conditions
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Errr, when I say I'm working this weekend that may just possibly be involving a bowl of water, goat and a toothbrush (shocking what SPOs have to do to earn a crust!) - actually its re-washing due to lack of work-pride on site (hence the particular example), when I should probably really be attempting to decypher some site recording..... Do I take it you don't normally employ archaeologists to wash pot - who does it then and how come it's not budgeted in? Diggers sitting in a portakabin listening to the rain are getting paid anyway and need something to justify the wages bill once the crossword's done....

Agree with the 'getting them involved in post-ex' (it'd make my life simpler, in theory) but this is often not practical, for example because there's only a limited amount of stuff that can get done in a rained-off morning, longer tasks tend to just end up in chaos, whereas potwashing at least can be run on the lines of 'it's stopped raining, finish that bag then head back out'. Not that handy when the site's a 3 hour drive from the office either. Also never seems to be popular appearing back at the office by surprise with 20 muddy diggers.....probably need a bigger 'No Muddy Boots' sign....
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Greetings Dino...

My employer does have all grades of archaeologist washing pot and polishing goat when the deployment allows for it. I`ve actually learnt a lot from the process as there are some superb specialist-types knocking about in the building who are always approachable and passionate about their chosen fields. Whilst I concur with you on the logistics of involving fieldies in post-ex grown-upedness, I would still argue that such a practise would enhance the abilities of the workforce in the field and mitigate against the need for yourself to decypher absurd site recording. Have a good day off by the way!:face-approve:
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Greetings Troll, and a happy day off to you too

I do actually agree with the aspirations of everything in that, and attempts are made: a few diggers are often kept on in the office here after big sites (as in many units) to 'learn the ropes' by doing pretty much all parts of the PX process bar actually writing the report, some then turn out to be so good at it they get offered PO jobs - on that basis it would therefore be good if it were possible to do that with everyone, we're probably missing some good PO material, also gives a better opportunity to spot more specialist skills that people have but have neglected to highlight on their CVs. Some people who are never going to be more than 'ok' diggers then shine in an office environment - slightly biased viewpoint on that, since if there were more of them I could spend more time using my personal preferred skill which is mattocking mud Smile
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Dinosaur Wrote:Greetings Troll, and a happy day off to you too

I do actually agree with the aspirations of everything in that, and attempts are made: a few diggers are often kept on in the office here after big sites (as in many units) to 'learn the ropes' by doing pretty much all parts of the PX process bar actually writing the report, some then turn out to be so good at it they get offered PO jobs -

Yep, i got a small team to help with the post-ex last year (hopefully will do this year too). Understanding of the process is only reached by seeing the whole from start to end. We picked up three potential new supervisors from that one....although one has now left to work in health and safety Sad
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A Trojan horse for our side or one of them with too much insider knowledge? :0
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I've found the HSE to be helpful and sensible, if woefully underresourced. Its the safety manegment of companies (especially in the construction industry) that is laughable and downright dangerous!
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