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7th October 2010, 07:57 PM
gwyl Wrote:myself, i prefer to think of linear as an adjectival noun but i am sure sensible archaeology will be embraced by the big society which will be taking over when the rest of us are all on the rock'n'roll and sort out that little attempt to foster new growth in the English language; rather the solecism of 'the linear runs...' than the goddawful pleonasm 'the linear ditch runs...' - well like whatevs it's all relative innit...
of course, without a little bit of non-linear thinking we'd still be looking to get above the first rung of Hawkes' ladder, given that by and large we are only going through the rubbish that got thrown away rather than the detailed blue-prints
S**t! Red Alert! Run! Someone's using big words. And
GRAMMAR! I need a big pile of coats to hide under!
Honest to God I was never taught grammar in school and had to look up most of this on Wikipedia. Am I not allowed to say linear ditch any more? How do I refer to to straight ditches? Help, please I'm stupid!
For the love of God and my feeble brain, please no-one start using
maths. It's reserved for Wizards in my world
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7th October 2010, 08:08 PM
Erm...straight ditch?
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Merlot in one hand, Cigar in the other; body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, what a ride!
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7th October 2010, 08:12 PM
Kevin,
Without wanting to be less than diplomatic, have you taken leave of your senses? How are these people neo-cons?
Firstly, Stuart has stated that this shouldn't be taken seriously, so please don't.
Secondly, this kind of debate should be encouraged, and questioning current 'trendy' thoughts should never stop.
There's a lot wrong with archaeology, and fictitious interpretation legitimised by illinformed and fragmented post-structuralism is certainly high up there.
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7th October 2010, 08:30 PM
Dirty Boy Wrote:...Am I not allowed to say linear ditch any more?
not to teach my gran to suck eggs or owt, but... if it's a negative feature longer than it's wider by a factor of 4, say, it's only
sensible to call it a ditch - or is that being relativistic? Although i might hand it over to the post-processualists if it measures 10m by 40m; or else it's a quarrypit
...
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7th October 2010, 09:08 PM
Poetic Archaeology... I'm wring my next sheet as a poem which may be quite maudlin given it is a pyre pit fill. linear ditch is like saying round circle. but I will stop saying ground truthing! damn... just started that! have to stop!
Two new threads...
Poetic Contexts...
three word site day.
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7th October 2010, 09:09 PM
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gwyl Wrote:not to teach my gran to suck eggs or owt, but... if it's a negative feature longer than it's wider by a factor of 4, say, it's only sensible to call it a ditch - or is that being relativistic? Although i might hand it over to the post-processualists if it measures 10m by 40m; or else it's a quarrypit
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Kind of figured that... No, more in how linear ditch is a pleonasm. Always thought linear meant straight line as opposed to line. Got it now!
Sorry, but me old grey matter has taken a bit of a beating this week....
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7th October 2010, 09:17 PM
Actually just had a curving ditch... so would that be a non linear ditch... also had a wiggly ditch... aaaaaaaarg ma heid!
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7th October 2010, 09:17 PM
Dinosaur Wrote:This mean we as a profession can finally ditch the illiterate morons who think that 'linear' in a noun? :face-approve:....Time Team has a lot to answer for......
*COUGHS LOUDLY*
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8th October 2010, 08:49 AM
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BAJR Wrote:Actually just had a curving ditch...
would curvilinear* do you? not too sure, as yet, about the wiggly one - tho i do remember digging in Abingdon for a small local firm where the supervisor insisted on us diggers emptying out the linear feature, which was irregularly edged, with an equally irregular base and sides, and sterile fill. it was an ice-crack :face-crying:; tho' i am sure that i am not the only one with tales of archaeologically treated geology out there
*or is this jargon? who else but archs would use curvilinear?
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8th October 2010, 09:24 AM
I’ve recently had cause to use phenomenological terms in their proper context, but that was after a great deal of soul searching - 15 years after I’d first read about it.
I take the point though (or should that be the angular terminus?).
