7th September 2007, 12:42 PM
Steveâ¦. Quite right about the timescales⦠as I am doing this in spare time⦠it could be November before I have completed the report⦠and then it will be available to all⦠I would (like you and others) have prefeered a map of both the fields available and what was found⦠including a finds of the day type display⦠thatâs a question for Norman I fear. J But good point.
Wombat⦠the vetting is not really an issue ⦠( when was the last time archaeologists were vetted on a pipeline job for example⦠?? ) Yes I met the full range of people at the rally⦠lets leave it at that. J I prefer the glass half full scenario⦠and this was a unique event⦠with lots to learn.. So you may say the odd brooch went missing⦠(which could be seen as an unfounded accusation) I could see it as hundreds of finds recovered with archaeological value that would never have been found ever⦠if you see what I mean. Did it work⦠yes it did⦠where could it have been better⦠that can only be found out when it is doneâ¦.
The briefings unfortunately people at the back suffered from the Monty Python âBlessed are the Cheesmakers..â scenario⦠(SOLUTION: on the next rally at Corfe, everyone will be provided with a sheet detailing the How, Why and what happens next. A week before the event)
All bags will be numbered by me before⦠I already have Pinflags, I have the pens with me as well.
A map of where can and cannot be detected is provided.
77% of finds had locational data ⦠though if I implement tweaks to my system I could achieve over 90%
Trying to control with transects and squares is OK on an archaeological project, but not at a Rallyâ¦. There I had to remember I was invited in rather than the other way around⦠thatâs why the system was flexible⦠yes people pocketed finds, but recorded others⦠usually due to just thinking that we would not be interested⦠sometimes I had a bag of coins given one number⦠All these were âmy faultâ for not explainging myself clearly enough⦠something I have learned fromâ¦
I realise that If I can do this with xxx number people I can scale it to fit most situations⦠though I must be frank and say that the numbers involved were a strain⦠and I do not honestly think I could cope with any more.
Like you it was a case of try⦠and I can say⦠hand on heart, it was a success because more people recorded than normal, the data recovered is of archaeological value, the lessons and templates for future events have been learned and can be transferred.
I am sorry that you feel you had a disaster⦠you had some experience of the range â some come to get finds, others to help, others to have a walk in the country, some know their finds others donât, same is true for us all⦠I soon learned that trying to control⦠results only in the opposite ⦠Its not up to me to control, its up to me to aid. I had a larger team than you, and even then they were stretched.. but the results spoke for themselvesâ¦
You made me smile though about the clustering⦠all I had to do was stop for a second and talk to a detectorists, before the people in a hundred meter radius start homing in J
Whether itâs a digger hacking through a series of post holes or a detectorists popping grots in the finds pouch⦠we all need both a bit of slack a realisation that perfection is not achievable and that given time and explanation, attitudes changeâ¦
Think about it this wayâ¦. Recently on a site in xxxxxxxxx detectorists were brought in to scan the spoilheaps ⦠they have so far found scores of finds and coins⦠most pristine.. (I have seen them) - the company does not want them, as they are unstrat⦠your unlocated finds were also that⦠but you now know which field they come from⦠which is one up on the company, who did not want them, as it would just cost money to conserve them â¦â¦.
More and more we are working together ⦠and thatâs the best wayâ¦. Talking one to oneâ¦.
Again, you brought up valid questions, so no offence taken.
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
Wombat⦠the vetting is not really an issue ⦠( when was the last time archaeologists were vetted on a pipeline job for example⦠?? ) Yes I met the full range of people at the rally⦠lets leave it at that. J I prefer the glass half full scenario⦠and this was a unique event⦠with lots to learn.. So you may say the odd brooch went missing⦠(which could be seen as an unfounded accusation) I could see it as hundreds of finds recovered with archaeological value that would never have been found ever⦠if you see what I mean. Did it work⦠yes it did⦠where could it have been better⦠that can only be found out when it is doneâ¦.
The briefings unfortunately people at the back suffered from the Monty Python âBlessed are the Cheesmakers..â scenario⦠(SOLUTION: on the next rally at Corfe, everyone will be provided with a sheet detailing the How, Why and what happens next. A week before the event)
All bags will be numbered by me before⦠I already have Pinflags, I have the pens with me as well.
A map of where can and cannot be detected is provided.
77% of finds had locational data ⦠though if I implement tweaks to my system I could achieve over 90%
Trying to control with transects and squares is OK on an archaeological project, but not at a Rallyâ¦. There I had to remember I was invited in rather than the other way around⦠thatâs why the system was flexible⦠yes people pocketed finds, but recorded others⦠usually due to just thinking that we would not be interested⦠sometimes I had a bag of coins given one number⦠All these were âmy faultâ for not explainging myself clearly enough⦠something I have learned fromâ¦
I realise that If I can do this with xxx number people I can scale it to fit most situations⦠though I must be frank and say that the numbers involved were a strain⦠and I do not honestly think I could cope with any more.
Like you it was a case of try⦠and I can say⦠hand on heart, it was a success because more people recorded than normal, the data recovered is of archaeological value, the lessons and templates for future events have been learned and can be transferred.
I am sorry that you feel you had a disaster⦠you had some experience of the range â some come to get finds, others to help, others to have a walk in the country, some know their finds others donât, same is true for us all⦠I soon learned that trying to control⦠results only in the opposite ⦠Its not up to me to control, its up to me to aid. I had a larger team than you, and even then they were stretched.. but the results spoke for themselvesâ¦
You made me smile though about the clustering⦠all I had to do was stop for a second and talk to a detectorists, before the people in a hundred meter radius start homing in J
Whether itâs a digger hacking through a series of post holes or a detectorists popping grots in the finds pouch⦠we all need both a bit of slack a realisation that perfection is not achievable and that given time and explanation, attitudes changeâ¦
Think about it this wayâ¦. Recently on a site in xxxxxxxxx detectorists were brought in to scan the spoilheaps ⦠they have so far found scores of finds and coins⦠most pristine.. (I have seen them) - the company does not want them, as they are unstrat⦠your unlocated finds were also that⦠but you now know which field they come from⦠which is one up on the company, who did not want them, as it would just cost money to conserve them â¦â¦.
More and more we are working together ⦠and thatâs the best wayâ¦. Talking one to oneâ¦.
Again, you brought up valid questions, so no offence taken.
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu