18th February 2010, 09:58 PM
I waited unitl this evening to voice my own opinions on this one... and am glad to see that I am not alone in the general... er.. ah... pardon!!!
Oxbeast does indeed bring up some crackers... from the past. I noticed today that the JIS was not too bad... (yes there is an online version available if you know where to look) there are few jobs that would not be allowed on the BAJR website. though the past few editions have had ones that would not make it... and a recent discussion highlighted that they were unsure about whether a job was PiFa or not for non RO jobs that they are happy to display
Don't worry - I did tell them - however it is up to them as a commercial enterprise to decide,
There are several things in the reply that I take issue with.
BAJR has always been seen as a 'commercial enterprise' and thus.. 'it is up to me who I allow advertise'
However.. and this is funny coming up now given my recent postings about teh JIS - and the IfA upset.
Correct me if I am wrong... the JIS accepts paid adverts... so is there a responsibility?
As Oxbeast says.. does the checking only apply to RO jobs.... the rest are fine?
As destroyingangel says... the information is sold to non-ifa (again a commercial enterprise)
I looked at teh IfA accounts and they turn over
source http://www.archaeologists.net/modules/ic...a/ta69.pdf
JIS earned ?12,211 from revenue. admittedly from a ?904,215 turnover
which is down from over 16 grand a couple of years ago.. but still... 12 grand is 12 grand... what responsibility does this pay for?
if I had a million quid a year... blimey... i can only imagine what i could do. and the ifa do do things...
I would dearly like to see the IfA explain a few things
Can you promote good practice and decent pay with ROs but allow non ROs to advertise jobs that have issues
Can you pass the buck of responsibility by saying... well we just let people know... its up to them to decide.
Is it the 'job' of the ifa to deal with this...
they are not a union
they are not an employers group
I was under the impression that the iFa was to do with standards and guidance.. professionalism.. etc.. I am definitely behind that...
When you see an advert on BAJR you know it means (and yes I make mistakes... but sort them as soon as it is pointed out - and talk with employers to help make it right) that it is within the IfA and BAJR minima -- Yes BAJR survives on advert revenue... but I take responsibility for them..
I would ask teh IfA to join with me and stop advertising sub 15k jobs.. to agree that if the benchmark is to be seen as a real concept... it needs to address this last bastion of sub 15k jobs.
I support the ideal of the IfA - these ideals have to be seen in the JIS as well.
Oxbeast does indeed bring up some crackers... from the past. I noticed today that the JIS was not too bad... (yes there is an online version available if you know where to look) there are few jobs that would not be allowed on the BAJR website. though the past few editions have had ones that would not make it... and a recent discussion highlighted that they were unsure about whether a job was PiFa or not for non RO jobs that they are happy to display
Don't worry - I did tell them - however it is up to them as a commercial enterprise to decide,
There are several things in the reply that I take issue with.
BAJR has always been seen as a 'commercial enterprise' and thus.. 'it is up to me who I allow advertise'
However.. and this is funny coming up now given my recent postings about teh JIS - and the IfA upset.
Correct me if I am wrong... the JIS accepts paid adverts... so is there a responsibility?
As Oxbeast says.. does the checking only apply to RO jobs.... the rest are fine?
As destroyingangel says... the information is sold to non-ifa (again a commercial enterprise)
I looked at teh IfA accounts and they turn over
source http://www.archaeologists.net/modules/ic...a/ta69.pdf
JIS earned ?12,211 from revenue. admittedly from a ?904,215 turnover
which is down from over 16 grand a couple of years ago.. but still... 12 grand is 12 grand... what responsibility does this pay for?
if I had a million quid a year... blimey... i can only imagine what i could do. and the ifa do do things...
I would dearly like to see the IfA explain a few things
Can you promote good practice and decent pay with ROs but allow non ROs to advertise jobs that have issues
Can you pass the buck of responsibility by saying... well we just let people know... its up to them to decide.
Is it the 'job' of the ifa to deal with this...
they are not a union
they are not an employers group
I was under the impression that the iFa was to do with standards and guidance.. professionalism.. etc.. I am definitely behind that...
When you see an advert on BAJR you know it means (and yes I make mistakes... but sort them as soon as it is pointed out - and talk with employers to help make it right) that it is within the IfA and BAJR minima -- Yes BAJR survives on advert revenue... but I take responsibility for them..
I would ask teh IfA to join with me and stop advertising sub 15k jobs.. to agree that if the benchmark is to be seen as a real concept... it needs to address this last bastion of sub 15k jobs.
I support the ideal of the IfA - these ideals have to be seen in the JIS as well.