5th March 2010, 01:45 AM
c'mon.....lets get over ourselves....its not about health and safety and its not about whether drugs are ok or not [whats a 'drug' anyway...coffee. tea, sugar, dope, smak and so on...]...its about status and money....a digger driver gets between ?10 and ?20 an hour, depending on the company...even the toilet truck guy gets more than us...and arguably does a more 'socially useful' job....whilst OUR OWN 'upper echelons' treat us [and pay us ] like shxxx, then of course the engineers will treat us with contempt as well....they actually NEED digger drivers and such...nobody NEEDS an archaeologist, really, do they??
if we were on proper professional wages [after 3 to 5 years at college etc], we would get some respect...we are seen as worse than cowboys and treated accordingly....its bad enough working for these crap wages and conditions without having to be sober or 'straight' as well....you never hear of architects or designers getting drug tested or whatever [which is kind of on a par with where we SHOULD be] and i have worked with some companies where i know for a fact that the PO or boss is 'off his chump' on something or other.....
this 'moral' attitude in some of these posts is really irritating and patronising...as i say...get over yourselves....say no and fxxx 'em.....pay me a ?10 an hour and i'll straighten up a bit....alcohol is THE WORST on site...drunk colleagues are a menace to everybody, but if we were really needed, they would leave us alone anyway....
its about money and status.....thats all....Health and Safety is the Red Herring and we're all going to be further screwed....if you dont think im right....then wait and see how much your wages go up in the next 2 years.......we're more fxxxxx now than we were 5 years ago and it WILL get worse....
thats better...back to me old form.....
if we were on proper professional wages [after 3 to 5 years at college etc], we would get some respect...we are seen as worse than cowboys and treated accordingly....its bad enough working for these crap wages and conditions without having to be sober or 'straight' as well....you never hear of architects or designers getting drug tested or whatever [which is kind of on a par with where we SHOULD be] and i have worked with some companies where i know for a fact that the PO or boss is 'off his chump' on something or other.....
this 'moral' attitude in some of these posts is really irritating and patronising...as i say...get over yourselves....say no and fxxx 'em.....pay me a ?10 an hour and i'll straighten up a bit....alcohol is THE WORST on site...drunk colleagues are a menace to everybody, but if we were really needed, they would leave us alone anyway....
its about money and status.....thats all....Health and Safety is the Red Herring and we're all going to be further screwed....if you dont think im right....then wait and see how much your wages go up in the next 2 years.......we're more fxxxxx now than we were 5 years ago and it WILL get worse....
thats better...back to me old form.....