19th September 2005, 07:54 PM
to mercenary, apology accepted, and let's just say, I know excatly what you mean
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19th September 2005, 07:54 PM
to mercenary, apology accepted, and let's just say, I know excatly what you mean
++ i spend my days rummaging around in dead people ++
19th September 2005, 10:00 PM
I think that Kevin Wooldridge's post is a useful exercise. However, I don't think that the top two employers on the list don't employ archaeologists in the way that I interpret this topic to mean the word, namely as a 'digger' (I hate this term, but hey!). My memory of the environment agency and CGMS ads were that they were essentially junior to middle ranking consultant roles.
My exp. of employers? Wessex - generally good:face-approve: Oxford - generally good, keep you nose clean and you should get a long term contract:face-approve: EH - superb[8D]:face-approve: Northants - OK, middling
20th September 2005, 03:12 PM
Can I ask for a bit of common sense here - if are you are going to say negative things about a particular company can it be based on first hand experience.
Peter Wardle
20th September 2005, 03:16 PM
Quote:quote:Originally posted by drpeterwardle They look like testimonials to me
20th September 2005, 04:18 PM
[:0] Listen peeps. this thread is getting out of hand. This is apublic forum, and as such I am responsible for its content.
I would strongly advise people to refrain from finger pointing and naming without first consulting me. I spent a lot of time creating BAJR, and via BAJR things have changed, wages are standardised, conditions are also checked if I am contacted off list. Nobody reacts well to public defamation especially if the claims arenot supported. If you have something to tell... do it privately first with me... in most of the cases, it is a misunderstanding. In some it is not... and this is acted on. Remember the thread name is Who do you WANT to work for... not who do you want to say is crap. I bang on about positive posts... and thatis what I wouldlike to see. This forum is exciting and edgy thanks to you all.. but just be aware that I AM RESPONSIBLE for everything on this forum - It is my reputation that is hurt.. So one more time..... If you want to complain about a Unit... talk to me first... Otherwise these are just rumours, and could damage the reputation of an otherwise decent company. Thank you and I hope we move in the positive direction now. ps.... thanks Peter for stepping in while I am otherwise unable and also to Troll for the Quote:quote:dialogue/negotiation/communication Very interesting list of wages Kevin... nice bit of work that. Another day another WSI?
20th September 2005, 04:45 PM
It doesn't look like there is much defamatory in most of the comments here. The thread is about employers and whether idividuals have had good or bad experiences working with them.
I seriously doubt that many contributors have any documented incidents that are worth investigation by BAJR. That doesn't mean that all of the units listed are great employers though. With the exception of H&S issues units are able to treat staff pretty much how they see fit without much fear of censure. BAJR seems to be the ideal forum for excavators to recommend good employers, but with that must come negative accounts. I seem to recall that the Digger did a Fantasy Unit League a while back; was that stopped due to fears about defamatory comments? Is there not a way to lay down some ground rules about this kind of submission to the messageboard, that would allow the units to be named?
20th September 2005, 09:02 PM
i agree, as far as I can see the posts have all been about personal experiences, and at least in my case, can be backed up, but there isn't really much point in making formal complaints about any of the units. Bit one sided to say that you can only make nice comments about units, but I have no more to add, and maybe we should stop now. Don't want to incur wrath of Hosty
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20th September 2005, 09:47 PM
Sorry to butt in on your discussion, but I have actually found this information really useful, as someone starting out in the business...or at least trying to. Some of the jobs I have been offered recently were from some of the units mentioned as being well..you know. So if I hadn't read this, then I would probably have trotted off on a short term contract somewhere really stinky, and ended up with all sorts of problems. Its all very well knowing where is good to work for, but if you are a more mature lady like myself, the potential of being 'accomodated' in tents for example or worse generally treated like **** is very very valuable to know in advance. So if its too dangerous to put on here, can someone at least email me the units to avoid for future reference?
20th September 2005, 10:33 PM
Louloubelle,
Great to hear from you. I've always thought naming and shaming would quickly sort out the rogues, when no-one was willing to work for them. Those who've been around for a while know the units to avoid, but they seem to survive on a steady stream of new people like yourself who might not yet be in the know. If we cannot name and shame then a useful indicator of a unit that can't retain staff is the number of job ads they post on BAJR. Even big units with a lot of work don't advertise that often. Frequent ads indicate at best a company that has fluctuating workloads and cannot keep staff on, or at worst one where staff get out at the earliest opportunity. Either way, they're probably one to avoid if you've got the luxury of doing so. (I hope I haven't just undermined the whole basis of BAJR)
21st September 2005, 12:16 AM
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