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8th February 2009, 05:04 PM
Quote:quote:Originally posted by kevin wooldridge
Quote:quote:Originally posted by muddy
always good to hear of companies surviving. Shouldn't we be asking the question of what happens to the post-excavation and reports of units that have collapsed????
Financially, I guess the collapse of the company suggests no further money is available for post-ex
Intellectually, I guess that with all the best will in the world, the collapse of the company suggests no further money is available for post-ex and who will work for nothing.
We don't have a regualatory system in the UK where archaeologists can be forced to account for personal and/or corporate backlogs. (Discuss!!)
This is financial chicken and intellectual egg coming home to roost to the place where turkeys aint gonna be looking forward to Christmas.
With peace and consolation hath dismist, And calm of mind all passion spent...
Wasn't there proposed, a few years ago, an idea that developers pay into a central fund for their projects. This would then be administrated by a 'professional body' - the IFA. EH, and contractors paid upon completion of work.
That way, if an organisation goes bust! there is still money in the pot....
seems like a good idea to me :face-thinks:
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8th February 2009, 05:13 PM
I've just heard from a friend that his south east based commerical comp have just laid off 9 staff. They laid off about 8 just before xmas. Now they only have one site assistant per office and no work on the horizon. Is getting worse I think. If I can't get work soon I'm going to have to get an office job.
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8th February 2009, 06:09 PM
The redundancies continue and looking at the weekend Guar**an would imply 1 in 60 of the population is looking pretty harrowed on the prospects.
The idea of a central core fund being administered is not too far off the idea of rent deposits in monitored accounts.
The IFA and EH just aren't that kinda event co-ordinators.
That would be a whole other area, like revenue and customs.
As for the idea that commercially practicing businesses would even allow a method of sourcing competitor based funding for commercially data protected information and, or product.
I just don't see that kind of operation working in the real time economy.
It would take five minutes for developers to start using us as a financial black hole to weaken their competitors, by reducing their own liability within the central core funds.
Then the developers would just end up viewing us as complete liabilities.
What we need to do is muster some sort of % based overhead to be placed within a core fund, monitored and investigated as a grant giving trust body.
That body could then investigate principle and archaeological contractors whom routinly use this method of grant fund sourcing and then earmark advice within tendering groups information relating to purposeful under tendering by the principle, or then have a purse string tightening for access depending upon the amount invested.
the more you put in, as individual tenders, rather than % of finance.
That way smaller self-employed businesses could stilleffectively compete on a representative scale.
Anyways
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8th February 2009, 06:30 PM
It would be like a archaeological business tax
Dependent on some sort of flexible moderator between amount of times money placed in and the amount of money placed in, which itself would compare to the costings based around a situational standard acceptable to the County Archaeologists and, or the IFA on a Barganing System.
The only think is to establish a system of liability, ensuring we ourselves don't use it as a black hole, to kill off competitors.
Your talking about some serious Accounting Knowledge and considerable Industry behavioural experience.
not a small task at all
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10th February 2009, 11:03 AM
<sorry - AUP edit> it is best in these times not to discuss businesses by name>
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10th February 2009, 01:37 PM
Thanks for the edit. However I note that who is a director of a limited company is public domain infomation as well as if the company is being dissolved.
It is upto David to decide what can and cannot be placed on BAJR but what is important is that any such post is based upon fact in any event.
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10th February 2009, 01:58 PM
Ok ..sorry
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10th February 2009, 02:13 PM
Maybe it's just lost all it's flow?
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10th February 2009, 02:46 PM
I work for said south eastern unit and can confidently say most staff don't really know where we stand. On the one hand redundancies are occuring, but although most site assisstants have gone that still leaves most of the field POs and supervisors as site staff (harsh truth but its easier just to recruit diggers when thay are needed). Projectwise things are tight, as they are in many places, but over all the picture is unclear as the management don't really tell you what the situation is (probably coz they don't know either which tenders might be taken up or not). Still its sad to see things happening like this.
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10th February 2009, 03:06 PM
thats alot of overheads and, or alot of peoples backs on the verge of going.
you get promoted if your forced to by your body in some cases and in others because you climb the slippery pole.
which archaeologists do you think will be able to keep up the work load?
experience of the work, or experience of the jocky for the work?
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