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3rd January 2006, 03:22 PM
Best to put yer dosh elsewhere mate.I joined "Prospect" back when they were IPMS. They really are about as useful as a waxwork dummy.In the steel industry.The IFA have been about for long enough to go through many sets of teeth and hav`nt bared them once.All we`re asking is that they chew with the rest of us.
..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)
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3rd January 2006, 03:28 PM
I'm aware of the problems with both the IFA and Prospect, and I'm a member of one of them.
We've got the IFA and I think its pretty much here to stay.
All I can suggest is that we shape them both to our needs with highly sustained pressure; constant letters and hassling the reps. The more people who do this the louder we will become...I live in hope...its near Castleton....
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3rd January 2006, 03:31 PM
what teeth troll [:0]
I agree with mr host, some contact at this stage is better than none. Had indirect contact with Tim Howard and found him to be very communicative. Well worth giving a more than reasonable chance to have his say.
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3rd January 2006, 03:50 PM
Any time this millennium sir, any time this millennium.
..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)
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3rd January 2006, 03:53 PM
Give it a chance little trowie. You'd be more efective as part of a group and such a group would certainly benefit from your fine rhetoric.
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3rd January 2006, 03:58 PM
I had an e-mail from Prospect recently asking for my employment details. This despite letting my union membership lapse 3 years ago! Clearly they can't even keep track of their own members. It sort of explains why they were so ineffectual when I desperately needed their help, and why I let my membership lapse.
I used to be a very active union rep for IPMS and Sparky you are right, the colours have not just faded, they were taken down and buried.[xx(]
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3rd January 2006, 04:04 PM
Agreed on all counts.Perhaps I am being a bit hasty.After all, I`ve only been waiting for the IFA to get involved for 8 years.Some of my longer-serving colleagues have eyebrows entangled in their pubic hairs they`ve been waiting so long.
..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)
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3rd January 2006, 04:08 PM
nasty mental picture Troll[xx(]
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3rd January 2006, 04:13 PM
Can be a nighmare when they wink, sneeze or blink sir!
..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)
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3rd January 2006, 04:31 PM
OK then, pubes, eye-brows, winnits, dangle-berries and dread-locks of every colour and unidentifiable scents aside, would it not be an idea to use this debate as a course of action to be decided over the BAJR conference; that is, the IFA and Prospect are here to stay so lets use them. And from this decide on a strategy and stick to it....?
