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Steve H Wrote:Perhaps instead of the IFA ineffectually imposing standards, we ought to have a government agency doing it. Then it would have some teeth and would be able to legally enforce standards and do useful things like standarising recording systems.
I'd have much rather have had EH do this than the IFA private members club.
I'd go along with that :face-approve:
Common and
ENFORCED standards, and then let the individual contractors sort out the free market bit within those parameters
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Boxoffrogs Wrote:May the small gods save us all from a government body...especially in the present Tory led environment...They have started to trash the green agenda already....
Even in the 80s a lot of government bodies were a damn more reasonable than the government. The Torys (and now the rest of mainstream politics it seems) hate government bodies and would much rather replace them with private ones, hence privatisation of industry (closely followed by its destruction, unemployment etc) and perhaps the rumoured floating off of EH as a charity and the IFA increasing its influence.
Have the Tory Bigwigs got shares in the IFA (obviously not a serious point, just making a point about the corruption of politics)?
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Quote: privatisation of industry (closely followed by its destruction, unemployment etc
wasn't that the other way round. It would be interesting to know how much we are still paying in tax for all those reasonable government bodies of the 80s 90s and 2000s. what do you recon, about 10 to 20% still alive or is it more like 70 to 80y.
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Unitof1 Wrote:wasn't that the other way round. It would be interesting to know how much we are still paying in tax for all those reasonable government bodies of the 80s 90s and 2000s. what do you recon, about 10 to 20% still alive or is it more like 70 to 80y.
While you're researching that, why don't find out how much the final destruction of British industry by Thatcher cost us? I think that despite Tory propagander, taxes rose for most people in the '80s, but I think that has more to do with the lack of industry to create taxable wealth rather than profligate spending by EH.
And, would you really have our industry regulated by the IFA than, for example, EH?
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The EA are still doing fine and seem to have plenty money.
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Jack Wrote:The EA are still doing fine and seem to have plenty money.
Thats because they have the real and present (though not at the moment) threat of flooding with the resultant lose of life and property to dangle in front of anyone who might think to cut their money. Cannot see what threat apart from lose of our heritage EH has to wave at people. As this government has consistently shown heritage can sink
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16th July 2013, 02:46 PM
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HM GOVT. Will trash the heritage sector, if not in this term of office then, God forbid, the next. I have no faith in their claim to be guardians of either the Heritage OREnvironment sectors of this country. They are here to strip it bare and give it to the rich (ie themselves).
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Boxoffrogs Wrote:HM GOVT. Will trash the heritage sector, if not in this term of office then, God forbid, the next. I have no faith in their claim to be guardians of either the Heritage of Environment sectors of this country. ......
Me neither, but luckily it seems there are enough (for now) who have the ears of the right people and/or public pressure to keep the requirements in place in the planning process.
I wonder how long this will be tenable though, with cuts and the drive to privitise and 'self-certify'.
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not entirely certain what you mean by the heritage sector or what it has got to do with archaeology? bit like the ifa and chartering
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Unitof1 Wrote:not entirely certain what you mean by the heritage sector or what it has got to do with archaeology? bit like the ifa and chartering
some of us are employed in the heritage sector and some of us cant get work in the heritage sector - nowdyasee?
If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers